I am talking about a cooperative monetary system not some form of
government!? When money is (re)designed so that people cooperate instead
to constantly compete then that has nothing to do with a totalitarian
state? Once we have a cooperative monetary system we can just produce
whatever humanity needs based on maximum (physical) efficiency and
sustainability and not based on monetary profit. Corruption, poverty and
most types of crime will disappear immediately, we will have the most
durable products, we will have access to everything we need without the
burden of caring about maintenance work or having things repaired or
serviced on a per person basis ... etc, etc, ... i don't see what a
totalitatian government has to do with all of this? Actually you would
need little government in a cooperative world ... problems would be
solved by using a scientific approach instead of a profit oriented
approach that always requires regulation and loads of bureaucracy to
fight the tendency of the competitive paradigm to get away with least
effort and maximum monetary profit, corruption, ecological destruction
and the exploitation of people.
I really don't get what you are trying to say ... there can never be
cooperative governments within a competitive framework ... there can
never be real trust within a competitive framework. Ultimately everyone
will sell you out/take advantage of you if they have to ... and
exponential growing debt will ensure that most people will sooner or
later have to do exactly that. We can hit the reset button like we did
in the 30es and have the same b*llshit of ecological and social
destruction or rethink the destructive rules we have once chosen to
impose upon ourselves.
I think that if we fail to implement a cooperative society we will get
closer and closer to a societal collapse unless some sort of AGI/BCI
increases the overall intelligence/rationality of our society (or
obsoletes humanity) and thus our ability to limit that tendency of the
complex system of our society to disorder. Humanity can only deal with
up to a certain level of entropy and will collapse if some threshold is
reached ... and as I stated before competition is generating most of
that irrelevant entropy that disorders the complex system of humanity.
(as said before ... see first part of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDVtxvvRGQI )
On 01/12/2013 05:59 AM, Tim Tyler wrote:
On 11/01/2013 00:38, just camel wrote:
> explain how cooperation is the key to solve all socioeconomic
problems and
> how a non competitive monetary system is quite feasible especially
with our
> today's technology [...] there are hundreds of thousands of people
out there
> already working on implementing a cooperative monetary system.
Cooperation isn't all good. Indeed, many current governments go to
considerable pains to ensure that no other large cooperating enties
appear within their boundaries and threaten them. That is part of
the point of the antitrust laws of The United States and the
Monopolies and Mergers act in the U.K.
A large cooperative government is known as a "totalitarian" state:
"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing
against the state."
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
The concept doesn't have a great rep.
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