Steve,

That’s because you are being frankly just too  uncreative to consider 
alternatives. A creative person ALWAYS considers mechanical/software 
alternatives. There is no such thing as a unique machine – only one way of 
achieving an effect.

You’re assuming that the only form of mechanical thought is an algo – to argue 
otherwise according to you is to be a religious kook. Well, the human conscious 
mind is part of a machine, and you have to be literally out of that mind, to 
think it is algorithmic –as I explained. The real religious kook here , 
stifling creative thought, questioning and ideas - , is YOU.

From: Steve Richfield 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:43 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: Re: [agi] Steps of Thought Will Follow the Discovery of 
Forms-of-Thought

Mike,


Your postings remind me of a Christian Science friend, who sees ever so clearly 
that AGI is impossible, because machines can't reach into the great beyond 
where our souls reside.

Continuing...
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote:


 
  Are you prepared to dump algos and look for some other kind of programming? 

This question appears to be oxymoronic. What else is there?


Steve
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  From: Jim Bromer 
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:48 PM
  To: AGI 
  Subject: [agi] Steps of Thought Will Follow the Discovery of Forms-of-Thought

  One of the problems I have had with the theories that are discussed in AI/AGI 
discussions, is that they do not seem to answer the most basic of questions.  
They never seem to be clearly related to the way we actually think.  There are 
explanations for this.  First of all computer programming is not the same as 
our personal experiences of thinking. This leads to some fracturing of the 
principles of thought.  Secondly, most of us have a sense that  we have to 
understand the underlying form-of-thought in order to understand how thought 
might take place.  And this is probably true.
  Jim Bromer
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