Mike, Perhaps you haven't noticed, but I have created many things and discussed them here on this forum, not the least of which are DrEliza.com and my new method of parsing English at human speeds. Creativity is certainly NOT a shortcoming of mine.
You talk about my stifling creativity - what have YOU done but sound like an idiot by saying that everyone else's work is crap, while offering ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of your own? Don't you ever tire of sounding like an idiot? If you had anything important to say, you certainly would have said it by now. Please accept that you are an uncreative and unrepentant troll, and go bother some OTHER forum. Steve ==================== On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote: > Steve, > > That’s because you are being frankly just too uncreative to consider > alternatives. A creative person ALWAYS considers mechanical/software > alternatives. There is no such thing as a unique machine – only one way of > achieving an effect. > > You’re assuming that the only form of mechanical thought is an algo – to > argue otherwise according to you is to be a religious kook. Well, the human > conscious mind is part of a machine, and you have to be literally out of > that mind, to think it is algorithmic –as I explained. The real religious > kook here , stifling creative thought, questioning and ideas - , is YOU. > > *From:* Steve Richfield <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:43 PM > *To:* AGI <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [agi] Steps of Thought Will Follow the Discovery of > Forms-of-Thought > > Mike, > > Your postings remind me of a Christian Science friend, who sees ever so > clearly that AGI is impossible, because machines can't reach into the great > beyond where our souls reside. > > Continuing... > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Mike Tintner > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Are you prepared to dump algos and look for some other kind of >> programming? >> > > This question appears to be oxymoronic. What else is there? > > Steve > ================== > >> *From:* Jim Bromer <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:48 PM >> *To:* AGI <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [agi] Steps of Thought Will Follow the Discovery of >> Forms-of-Thought >> >> One of the problems I have had with the theories that are discussed in >> AI/AGI discussions, is that they do not seem to answer the most basic of >> questions. They never seem to be clearly related to the way we actually >> think. There are explanations for this. First of all computer programming >> is not the same as our personal experiences of thinking. This leads to some >> fracturing of the principles of thought. Secondly, most of us have a sense >> that we have to understand the underlying form-of-thought in order to >> understand how thought might take place. And this is probably true. >> Jim Bromer >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six > hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full > employment. > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full employment. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
