is there anything relevant in this thread or is it the good old "Ben you
don't understand this" "Yes I do, you don't understand that" "Yes I do,
you..."

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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Leonardo Stern <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> The other cost is the 10^17 bits of global human knowledge needed to
> >> automate the economy, which has to be collected through speech and
> >> writing from everyone on the planet at a cost of about $0.001 to $0.01
> >> per bit, or $100 trillion to $1 quadrillion. Moore's Law won't help
> >> you here.
> >
> >
> > We don't need the global human knowledge for an AGI, just human-level
> knowledge: 10^9 bits, $ 1 million to $10 millions (using your data).
>
> Actually $10K to $100K per worker replaced, because 99% of the 10^9
> bits you need are shared with other people and can be copied. There is
> 10^7 bits that makes you unique. In order for an AGI to serve you
> properly, it needs to learn these personal preferences.
>
> I assume 99% sharing based on a U.S. Labor Dept. estimate that it
> costs $15K (1% of lifetime earnings) to replace an employee on
> average. Notice that in the first case I am describing how much other
> people know (or should know) about you, and in the second case, how
> much you uniquely know about other people. Summing over the
> population, it's the same knowledge.
>
> Of course, building a single AGI is much more expensive per worker
> replaced. What we are actually doing is building lots of systems that
> each automate small tasks done by millions of people until everything
> is automated. We aren't building artificial people, just machines that
> have the same skills.
>
> I know some people *want* to build artificial people. Eventually that
> will be easy, but probably pointless and possibly illegal.
>
> --
> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
>
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