I haven't understood how OpenCog Prime would fail when it comes to recombining known concepts and stuff? In what way is our brain superior? Searching through a list, hash, neurons and synapses, atom space and recombining bits of information and nodes ... all the same to me? You have a pool of information and patterns and an algorithm or a method of iterating through that storage and applying some logic to them?

You can not possibly invent something genuinely new. Think of a colour you have never seen before, or the universe with different laws of nature ...

On 05/03/2013 10:46 AM, Mike Tintner wrote:
camel: How do you search through something in your brain you have not yet
seen/heard/learned?

To quote yourself: "Wouldn't it be better if we all worked together on something that might
work instead of pointing out why it might not? :-)"

You search through clusters of info in your head that have a) not been associated with the problem before, or - in case I get another v. literal response from you - b) associated in a particular way with the problem, or c) well ordered for the problem beforehand.

Why would you want a brain where almost nothing is as neat and well ordered as in an algorithm? - because that gives you infinite flexibility to reshuffle and reassociate info - and thence generativity. Low efficiency, but high generativity.

P.S. Your brain just registered a new idea from my post , which you dismissed. Now, if you want to be creative and constructive, you can go back to that idea which is neither ordered nor digested in your brain, and make something new of it. You can "rediscover" the idea. That's one form of the brain's cognitive synergy which is not available to algos, but could be available to more imaginatively constructed programs.




-----Original Message----- From: just camel
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 5:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [agi] Kurzweil irrelevant

How do you search through something in your brain you have not yet
seen/heard/learned?

Try imagining a different universe with completely different laws of
nature. Good luck!

On 05/03/2013 09:58 AM, Mike Tintner wrote:
These searches are adventures – explorations – the opposite of what algos do, which is really “checking” lists rather than true “searching” through jungles of information.



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