"No.  We're working on an AGI mind via the open source OpenCog project.
As another project, I'm working with a separate team on a financial
prediction system, which utilizes some OpenCog components along with a load
of other stuff.."

So OpenCog is not even founded right? It's a weekend project, no?

"how do you know the Ben observed at conferences isn't a body double"

That is a very good point Ben. I always get you AGI researchers mixed up
with people like this
http://iacknowledge.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/homeless-and-addiction.jpg

;)

"A government could of course fork OpenCog and do stuff with it.   What I
meant is that they couldn't tractably "take over" the project in the sense
of capturing it and making it wholly internal to themselves.."

Have you seen the trailer for http://youtu.be/VCTen3-B8GU ?






On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "So an initial working version of OpenCog is better analogized to the
>> Linux kernel, plus enough non-kernel stuff to make the thing usable and
>> demonstrable in some significant way....  Then once that core version has
>> been excitingly demonstrated, getting a lot of support code built to
>> connect the core OpenCog system to loads of other stuff will be easier, and
>> will be more analogous to the build-out of the rest of the OpenCog system."
>>
>> So you're working on building an AGI mind via a financial prediction
>> system? Interesting..
>>
>
>
>
> No.  We're working on an AGI mind via the open source OpenCog project.
> As another project, I'm working with a separate team on a financial
> prediction system, which utilizes some OpenCog components along with a load
> of other stuff...
>
>
>
>>
>> "Because one of our major thrusts is natural language processing; and
>> apes and racoons have very limited English capability"
>>
>> so do babies
>>
>
>
> Yes, hence the goal of an "AGI toddler" not an infant ;)
>
>
>>
>> "But recall, I lived in DC for 9 years and did a bit of military and
>> intel AI consulting.  I know what that part of the world wants."
>>
>> That was in the 80's. This is 2014.
>>
>
> No, I lived/worked in DC from 2002- late 2011 ... not in the 80s ...
>
>
>> Siri (the Apple app) is a spin-out from the SRI International Artificial
>> Intelligence Center, and is an offshoot of the DARPA-funded CALO
>> project. DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) is an agency of
>> the United States Department of Defense responsible for the development of
>> new technologies for use by the military. If any of your stuff actually
>> worked, I'm sure they would be interested.
>>
>
> Yeah, I've worked on various DARPA and IARPA projects before.  Those
> agencies have their own peculiar ways of doing things, which I don't feel
> like taking time to describe on this list...
>
>
>>
>> "None of the core team really has a mindset that wants to work for a
>> gov't or a big company....   We all consider building an open source
>> thinking machine more important than that.  Note Linas Torvalds has not
>> been recruited to work for a big company or the gov't either.."
>>
>> Nonsense, Torvalds was recruited by Steve Jobs himself to work on Mac OS X
>>
>
> I meant that Linus Torvalds was not successfully recruited, obviously.. ;p
>
> ***
>
> What, did you miss the opening scene in ironman where is looked in a cave
> and forced to build stuff? You might want to invest in some security Ben.
> ***
>
> How do you know the Ben observed at conferences isn't a body double?  ;D
>
> ***
> "This sort of open source project is not particularly well set up for any
> particular government to take it over.."
>
> Why not? All your work is online and once there is a kernel it would be
> easy to build the rest as you say :)
> ***
>
> A government could of course fork OpenCog and do stuff with it.   What I
> meant is that they couldn't tractably "take over" the project in the sense
> of capturing it and making it wholly internal to themselves...
>
> -- Ben G
>
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