On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote:
> So why don't you say you're developing the mind of an ape or raccoon since > you haven't defined a toddler brain. > > Because one of our major thrusts is natural language processing; and apes and racoons have very limited English capability ;) ben > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I don't know much about adolescent brains, but there is lots of knowledge >> about toddler brains and minds and the correlations therebetween, as >> described in standard texts like >> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Developmental-Cognitive-Neuroscience-Mark-Johnson/dp/1444330861 >> >> that you probably know... >> >> ben >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I now see why we don't have AGI yet lol. PM, I studied cognitive >>> neuroscience. Empirical evidence linking neurodevelopmental processes and >>> adolescent real-world behavior remains nonexistent. Just because children >>> lack knowledge of concepts like "conservation" doesn't mean they are >>> systematically different like Ben is saying. It's called ignorance :) >>> >>> Holla! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Piaget Modeler < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> According to psychologists, a person's frontal lobe isn't developed >>>> until mid to late 20's. >>>> That's why teenagers cannot accurately predict the consequences of >>>> their actions. >>>> >>>> Even Piaget noticed that concepts like "conservation" was not present >>>> in children of >>>> certain ages. There are just certain constructs that are not present >>>> in infants, small children, >>>> teenagers, that are indeed present in most adults. (Most because of >>>> human variability.) >>>> >>>> ~PM >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:05:11 -0700 >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [agi] Elon Musk And Mark Zuckerberg Have Invested $40 >>>> Million In a so called Artificial Intelligence Company >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the links Ben, but those articles don't really support your >>>> case. A child's brain is LESS efficient than an adult brain? Is that it? >>>> Really? As we get older synapses get pruned and long-distance axonal tracts >>>> get more heavily insulated with myelin. Umm, okay. I believe that is called >>>> learning. Where are the many systematic differences? I bet a 35 y/ old has >>>> a more efficient brain than a 18 y/o. So lets call the 18 y/o old some made >>>> up name. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e> | >>>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19237892-5029d625> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> http://goertzel.org >> >> "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. >> James T. Kirk >> >> "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery / None but ourselves can free >> our minds" -- Robert Nesta Marley >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19237892-5029d625> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. James T. Kirk "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery / None but ourselves can free our minds" -- Robert Nesta Marley ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
