But I would submit that copy of you is not you. A clone of you is not you, it is a clone.It doesn't have the same identity. Neither does a program that simulates your mind.(In my humble opinion, of course.) ~PM
> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 20:01:48 -0500 > Subject: Re: [agi] [offtopic] The GOERTZEL's latest publication. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Piaget Modeler via AGI <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Do uploaders actually think their consciousness will continue in the > > machine, > > or do they believe their physical bodies will die, but a computer program of > > them will continue? I am confused. > > I understand your confusion. Your confusion is from the belief that > there is a difference between a machine simulating you and a machine > actually being you. You believe in phenomenal consciousness, just like > everyone else. It increases your reproductive fitness. You don't want > it to go away by dying. But logically, I think you can see that either > it must be impossible for a machine to simulate a human mind, or else > your mind must be just a computation. > > > Why upload, when you can pursue immortality instead? > > Of course you understand that is the same thing. A digital copy of > your mind can be backed up. Your memories and behavior can be saved to > disk, including the behavior of believing you have a soul. > > And just to be clear, by "uploading", I mean any program that models > your mind, whether it resides in a robotic body or a virtual world. > > -- > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-4a978ccc > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
