in response to reading
http://www.optimal.org/voss/rational_ethics.html
Peter, Interesting read on ethics and principles.
One positive take away for me was an insight as to what may be missing
for many young people. (drum roll...) Principles. As a society we have
placed great emphasis on both feelings and rationale thought. When I
was younger, I felt that I was more of a peer with older people and that
my understanding was just as good as theirs. It was not.
This relates to AGI in that an immature AGI, with "self knowledge" may
have a high opinion of itself based on mental gymnastics. The result
may be an unwillingness to observe any principles that it had not itself
produced through a logical process.
My "training" for an AGI would involve training it to observe principles
that it adopted based on source and not so much logic. That is NOT to
say the unit would need to treat those principles as absolutes that
cannot change. Rather, it would see these principles as effective
guidelines that are meant to be followed unless pre-empted by solid
logical body of evidence. The strategy would assume that knowledge
would eventually generate a refined and perfected "principled" behaviour.
I don't see youthful people today with much willingness to adopt and use
solid principles - the tendency is to drift toward the situational
ethic, the way one feels, and the "right" to do your own thing. There
is nothing wrong with the ethic, the feelings or the rights, but trying
to run with those things too soon is a poor starter.
Thanks for the interesting reading Peter. There is plenty that I
disagree with, as you might expect in that I'm a Christian. I'm not
sure the descriptions of ethics, morality, and virtue form a "system"
that shapes a way of life. I'm still reading.
Stan
On 12/31/2014 06:11 PM, Peter Voss via AGI wrote:
Matt -- I can't just let that go...
I doubt that anything will change your mind at this stage.. but for others:
Ethics is not just about feelings -- or at least it shouldn't be.
Properly understood, ethics are about principles to live by that enhance our
lives.
http://www.optimal.org/voss/rational_ethics.html
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Mahoney via AGI [mailto:[email protected]]
...
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:16 PM, John Rose via AGI <[email protected]> wrote:
If the original does not have p-consciousness then it's OK ethically to
terminate it, no?
No. This is an attempt to logically justify ethics. An ethical position is how
you feel about something.
...
-- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
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