Ummm.... sorry, but if you go to sleep on an operating table, then they slice up your brain... you won't wake up. A copy of you mightcontinue in a machine or online, but YOU certainly won't. That is my current understanding. Kindly advise if I'm incorrect here. Please explain #3 below. Now imagine what it'll be like debugging an AGI's memes. I think I'd rather debug Cyc, by hand, using notepad++, scrollingthrough the KB one line at a time. Aaaargh !!!
~PM > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 21:00:55 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: [agi] How to create an uploader. > > Uploading, like all other religions, is a memmetic parasite. As such, it > can disected like all other memes. > > The standard anatomy of a memetic parasite. > > 1. A genetic code. With christianity it is the bible, with uploading it > is a highly standardized narrative about how you go to sleep on an > operating table, your brain is sliced and scanned, and then you > magically wake up inVR. > > 2. A set of behaviors that re-enforce the belief in the meme and promote > its spread. With christianity we see churches and men in robes, with > uploading we see a massive emphasis on brain preservation and the > continual proselatizing we see on all transhumanist boards. > > 3. A defense mechanism. With religion we see, when the religion can get > away with it, a broad array of sanctions against heretics, including the > belief of punishment for non-belief. With uploading, and this is my most > recent discovery, there is a truly ingenious self-defense mechanism that > I'm only just now beginning to come to understand. > > > Now the ideal victim of this memetic parasite is someone who thinks of > himself as being highly logical, has a background in computing, and has > adopted a specific ontological framework. Even though Godel showed that > there is no such thing as a perfect ontology, uploaders behave as if the > world obeys their ontological framework instead of the truth which is > that their ontological framework merely has a sufficient correlation to > real-world phenomena to be useful for a finite set of problems. The > world, of course, does not give a flying fuck about what you think is > scientifically or logically correct. > > > The victim of the parasite must not have enough meta-scientific sense to > realize that there are subjects which science simply cannot make a > meaningful statement about. Specifically I am referring to subjective > experience. You may say that an upload will behave LIKE the origional, > that is a reasonable scientific statement. You, however, cannot say that > the upload IS the original because that is a statement of philosophical > metaphysics and cannot be addressed with a scientific mindset. > > > The course of the infection can be traced like any other disease. The > stage 1 of infection can be called "hooked". The prognosis for treatment > in this phase is still pretty good. The fledgling uploader has found > some aspect of uploading that seems positive and may consider himself to > be an uploader but is still open to introspection and new ideas. > > Thankfully, because uploading has not had as much time to evolve as > other religions, the memeplex has not yet been pre-digested down to a > litany that can infect even low-iq hosts. A stage 2 uploader is one that > has come to believe that backup copies are a potential form of > immortality. -- this is absurd but people actually believe this. This is > a critical phase for an uploader because it is probably the last stage > at which intervention is still possible. This phase will probably last > for less than a week in most patients. > > A third phase uploader has come to the realization that his highest > priority should be to pollute clean virgin floppy disks with copies of > his mind -- for the sake of backups.... > > Uploading becomes terminal at the instant the uploader first thinks to > himself "Well that form of transhumanism sounds interesting-ish, I'll > give it more thought after I have safely backed up my mind...." Patients > who reach this stage are irredeemable. =( It is actually quite shocking > to consider how perfectly the uploading memetic parasite protects its > victims from new ideas! It provides the perfect excuse not to think > about any aspect of transhumanism that doesn't involve uploading! > > Unfortunately, there is an omega phase of uploading. It happens when the > backup ethic gets crossed with the "heroic ethic" which basically states > that a person should attempt to, heroically, save the life of those in > peril. Because anyone who does not have a backup copy is, by definition, > in peril, it then becomes imperative to save them (to floppy). This is > where uploaders become a threat to everything that walks, swims, or > crawls. =((( > > While the uploaders could certainly use what I have written here to make > their meme-plex more dangerous, I hope this can be used by non-uploaders > and early-stage uploaders to help control the growth of this parasite > and make it possible to discuss a broad and diverse spectrum of > transhumanist ideas without pre-imposing an inevitable teleology. > > Friends don't let friends become uploaders! > > -- > IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. > > Powers are not rights. > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/19999924-4a978ccc > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
