> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Mahoney via AGI [mailto:[email protected]]
> 
> The problem is you think consciousness is some magical ingredient that will
> make AGI work.
> 

Consciousness "seems" to provide higher level reasoning/intuitive syntheses in 
general intelligence. Humans provide that component of consciousness now in the 
creation of AGI. I don’t think an AGI would auto-create itself without 
consciousness present even on some alien planet. 

We might be mistaking that higher level reasoning synthesis as "consciousness" 
it might just be some component of consciousness, p-consciousness or some part 
of the "self"... Whatever that thing is now my mind has locked onto that 
pattern, it's a mathematical synthesizer thing I see it as, that autoruns and 
fuses structures together (thinking out loud now)...

I was also thinking though from a meta standpoint, perhaps graphs of conscious 
entity nodes (people) can be modeled as consciousness flow similar to 
electron/electron-hole flow for when an individual consciousness disappears, 
dies, in relation to the genetic tree of species collective learning for 
knowledge transmissions inter-generationally.

IOW the absence of consciousness instances compared to electronic network hole 
flow in mathematical circuit models on the genetic tree in a dynamical 
interactive evolution. Just a thought...

John 




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