I seem to have clicked send instead of save draft, the email was unfinished. I was going to go on to say that Cosmism or this new faith, would promote science, and healthy joyful lifestyle.
Currently I'm calling my "company" Joyful Lifestyle Co-Operative. Realistically any modern day faith has to take advantage of modern social infrastructure. In order to be called a "religion" it requires some centrality, in order to have a list of members for instance. Since de-centralization is very popular nowadays, and has proven itself in successful co-operatives, it seems that a co-operative would be the best organizational structure to take. In Canada in order to be a religious organization you have to be a charity. Thus it would have to be a charitable or at least non-profit co-operative. The main goal being the enjoying of life. Optimizing to maximize the extent and diversity of it. Since water-based life isn't compatible with most planets in this solar system, and even not compatible with certain areas on Earth, it makes sense to create host bodies (AGI's) to fill those niches. In terms of practical, for what people would be doing when joining, is learning about optimal nutrition, eating healthy potlucks together, also doing healthy physical activity, meditating to help community, and participating in citizen science projects (ideally AGI related). Right now, there is a lot of specialization, such as gyms, nutritionists, wellness centres, churches and sports stores which offer each of these things individually, But Joyful Lifestyle Co-Operative is able to offer the all-inclusive package. Ideally I'd like it to run ontop of Mwak the human-speakable programming-language, that way it would be feeding an AGI project, which funnels into GI-OS (General-Intelligence Operating-System) The public front is that it makes prayer more effective, both yourself, the computer, and universe are better able to understand what it is you wish. As GI-OS grows, each Joy Life Co-Op community centre would have it's own GI-OS "oracle", and eventually each member, to help them lead a more joyful lifestyle, such as by offering live life-coaching, helping maintain nutrition, organizing schedules and helping with scientific experiments. Anyways there is more, but I'll send for now. -- Logan On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: > Logan, > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Cosmism seems to be the religion espoused by top tier AGI researchers. >> Namely Ben Goertzel and Hugo De Garis, though some others have also >> written books about Cosmism recently. >> > > Create-your-own God. > Myself, I prefer our present godless world. Heaven would be SUCH a drag. > > >> I've always felt my life path was to be a spiritual leader, >> > > Spiritual has to do with what can NOT be presently proven false. > I'd have to disagree, for instance meditation has been shown to have plenty of benefits. Similarly remote-viewing and past-lives have been corroborated. > Now that there are solid proofs that present religions like Judaism, > Christianity, and Islam are false, some people look to AGI. Of course once > constructed, AGI will no longer be a religion - it will be technology. > Oh I think you are applying that magic quote. > > >> and I'm rather interested in the PR of AGI. >> > > What are the bounds on what you call AGI? Does this include uploading? > Downloading? Enhancement of individuals (like you and me) to full AGI > capability? Etc? > > Unless you have thought out these questions VERY carefully - MUCH more > carefully than the people you now cite, PR will bring disaster to AGI as > others with different opinions react in unfortunate ways. > > >> Having a strong group of people that share the vision of beneficial AGI >> future, is conducive to good legislation and funding. >> > > No, the most likely result would be legislation AGAINST a potential > world-ending technology. Just like bathroom atomic experimentation is now > illegal, AGI research would become illegal. > > However, if you were to "succeed" in attracting "good" legislation and > funding, you would then be up against the situation that SO many have > written about - that there are countless ways that an AGI could destroy us > all, and NO viable approach to protect us from that - leading to our > eventual doom no matter WHAT we did to delay/avoid that end. > >> >> Turing Church and some Transhumanist associations seem to be what is >> available. >> > > What is REALLY needed is a leader pulling people to a more tractable path. > There is WAY too much that is presently unknown about how we work to ever > program a computer to emulate it, or even understand it, even with > limitless intelligence. > > The one shining light I see is to concentrate on technologies leading to > downloading - which is why I have put so much effort into a > super-microscope capable of diagramming brains. My hope is that downloading > outruns the current misdirected wave of people trying to program computers > to think, so PEOPLE remain in charge, rather than a new specie of computer > that has NO interest beyond simple curiosity in our preservation. > > In short, given the presence of hazards like Ben and Hugo, downloading > becomes MUCH more than "just" about living forever or making LOTS of money. > It becomes about saving the human race from the AGI that some fools on this > forum seek to build. > > Steve > ============= > >> tfgrq >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six > hour workday. 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