Steve, The patent looks fine. I wasn't trying to ridicule you. I have grand plans myself. We all do. We've all got delusions of grandeur on some scale. Otherwise we'd be better off with narrow AI. I've tried to quit what I am working on for something a bit more practical but I always return. I can't help myself.
The statement of taking over the internet, though... I mean, google, yes, has done that, but their market cap is waaaaaaaay up there. Mike On 10/28/15, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: > Mike, > > Just read the patent: > > http://www.google.com/patents/US8788263 > > and make up your own mind. There is much more that has been filed but has > NOT yet been granted. I did NOT say that this is any sort of ultimate plan, > just a LOT better than Google/Facebook/Yahoo/Amazon, etc., especially at > identifying and approaching apparent potential customers (they call this > "advertising" but I have a much better method) - which is where the money > seems to be. > > I have a plan. Now I need people behind the various parts of it. With those > people in place I can probably raise the money via EquityNet or something > similar to make this real. With the money and the plan, we will all get > paid and become rich and be able to work on REAL AGI and other interesting > things. > > Steve > ========================== > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 10/28/15, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Mike, >> > >> > Oh, I see, you are one of those AGI dualists - who think that computers >> > can't do much until they are fully AGI, despite the "weak" AI >> > approaches >> > that are now making billions of dollars. If you think about it, with >> > that >> > attitude you are absolutely GUARANTEED not to be in on any big >> revolutions, >> > because you will sit out anything short of AGI, and lack relevant >> > credentials if/when a true AGI opportunity arises. >> > >> > Jumping from counting clicks and tallying bags of words to actually >> > understanding (initially, enough to identify which of hundreds of >> > interesting meanings were conveyed) what has been said along with >> > having >> a >> > good technical and financial plan to capitalize on this capability >> > might >> > not seem like much to an AGI dualist, but I am sticking with my 4-word >> > description, unless of course you have a better ~4 word description of >> > where this could eventually lead. >> > >> >> Huh? You said you were planning to "take over the internet." Wha? I >> have not read your posts in detail, although I've got some of the >> picture of what you are doing. I'm not of the opinion that full blown >> human-level AGI is the single successful route. How did you infer >> that? I'm just wondering if you were serious about "taking over the >> internet." That is patently grandiose claim, as any fair minded >> person would tell you. It sounds like the Evil Dr. Such-and-such in >> an old Ian Fleming book, you know, he is on a desert island preparing >> to take over the world. >> >> Mike >> >> > Steve >> > =================== >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Don't you think "take over the internet" is a bit much? >> >> >> >> On 10/28/15, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> >> > >> >> > I have been learning a LOT while looking for funding - which >> >> > suggests >> >> > we >> >> > should all rethink our respective directions. >> >> > >> >> > The Jobs 2012 act made it possible to crowdfund projects not >> >> > exceeding >> >> $10M >> >> > without going through the whole SEC public offering hassle. Then >> >> > along >> >> came >> >> > sites like Kickstarter with their own visions for the future which >> does >> >> NOT >> >> > include larger visions like those shared here. However, there are >> >> > places >> >> > like EquityNet in which larger ideas appear fundable, provided they >> >> > don't >> >> > bump up against $10M. >> >> > >> >> > When you look at ENTIRE projects including marketing, patent >> >> > defense, >> >> etc., >> >> > rather than just getting to a demo, $10M is really tight no matter >> what >> >> you >> >> > are doing, especially if it involves any R&D. My own project to take >> >> > over >> >> > the Internet projected $10M when everything foreseeable was added >> >> > in. >> >> > >> >> > So, I had an idea for an end-around where many of us here could get >> >> > rich >> >> - >> >> > and be well paid as we get rich. Further, this will provide a >> >> > stepping >> >> > stone to even bigger things - maybe even an eventual AGI. Chop my >> >> > project >> >> > up into the separately marketable pieces needed to make the system >> >> > to >> >> take >> >> > over the Internet, and construct them in separately funded >> corporations >> >> > under a single umbrella. This way, each startup would be going into >> >> > this >> >> > with guaranteed customers, etc. The separate startups would include: >> >> > >> >> > 1. The core parsing and recognition technology >> >> > 2. A smart web crawler that also gathers contact information, >> >> > etc. >> >> > 3. An idiom database with a few thousand common idioms and >> >> > equivalent >> >> > straightforward text >> >> > 4. A medical database ala DrEliza only greatly extended >> >> > 5. An AI marketing organization >> >> > 6. An Internet sales organization >> >> > 7. etc. >> >> > >> >> > Note that these pieces can be combined in various ways to make >> >> > several >> >> > strong products, e.g. NO ONE is going to write good code to >> >> > understand >> >> text >> >> > without the idiom database - and nothing like it now exists. >> >> > You can see the publicly-disclosed parts of the plan by reading the >> >> patent >> >> > at: >> >> > >> >> > http://www.google.com/patents/US8788263 >> >> > >> >> > Also, there are other subsequent applications now in the "mill". >> >> > >> >> > To make this work for you, we would work together to create a >> >> crowdfundable >> >> > entity that you would be in charge of, to actually get paid well to >> >> > do >> >> the >> >> > work on the part of this project that you choose. These would be >> >> presented >> >> > together as a package, but each would also have a marketing plan to >> >> survive >> >> > and thrive outside of the package. This way, you would start with a >> >> salary >> >> > and customers waiting, rather than building something for nothing, >> >> > in >> >> > the >> >> > hope that customers will come, and further, there would have patent >> >> > protection for at least some parts of these projects. >> >> > >> >> > Once you get your part up and running, you will have both money and >> >> > credibility to build your own projects, rather than pieces of >> something >> >> > else. >> >> > >> >> > Any interest in leading the charge to develop one of these pieces? >> >> > >> >> > Steve >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------------- >> >> > AGI >> >> > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> >> > RSS Feed: >> >> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae >> >> > Modify Your Subscription: >> >> > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> >> > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> >> AGI >> >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> >> RSS Feed: >> >> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac >> >> Modify Your Subscription: >> >> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. 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