Kevin wrote:
>  I think Ben is closer to
> anyone in having a true mapping of the
> brain and its capabilities.  As to whether it ultimately develops the
> emergent qualities we speak of..time will tell...even
> if it falls short of singularity type hype,  i believe it can provide
> tremendous benefits to humanity, and that's what I care about.

I appreciate your enthusiasm & support.

I'd like to clarify, however, that I'm not actually trying to map or model
the human brain, but ONLY to emulate (and eventually exceed) its
capabilities.  I have studied neuroscience fairly extensively, but have
chosen to make Novamente very unbrainlike in many ways, in order to adapt it
better to the available hardware platform.

Alan Grimes wrote:
> Okay, I have some theories... Unfortunately I'm only a theorist so I'll
> > need some code-slaves to make any progress but I think that's doable.

Code-slaves, huh?

I suggest that you're unlikely to make much progress with this management
philosophy ;-)


Kevin wrote:
> If you read any discussion of the Singularity, its hard to
> separate what is
> being said from theism.  These machines are given God like qualities and
> powers.  It smacks almost of a new religion with its dogma 1's
> and 0's, but
> reeks of the same old idea that "i am flawed and weak and small and mortal
> and I want to be super and sumpremely smart and immortal!"  I can't blame
> people for looking for such things as the human condition is a rather sad
> one....

Well, yeah.  I am flawed and weak and small and mortal, and I want to be
super and supremely smart and immortal.

The interesting thing to come to terms with, is that transforming oneself
into a superbeing is in effect a form of *death*.

One's current self is really disappearing, if one transforms oneself that
completely.  What is the thread of identify/awareness that is left,
surviving such a transition ???

-- Ben G

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