Boy, I opened a can of worms.. here goes...
> > Kevin wrote: > > I will go as far to say that any computer system we develop, even one > > that realizes all the promises of the singularity, can only match the > > capacity of the human Mind. Why? Because the universe is the Mind > > itself, and the computational capacity of the universe is rather > > immense and cannot be exceeded by something created within its own > > domain. > > Well... I empathize with your experiential intuition, but this doesn't quite > feel right to me. > > Why doesn't your argument lead also to the conclusion that no computer > system can exceed the capacity of the dog Mind? In terms of the Mind, all dualiuties fall away, so dog, human, computer are irrelevant and nothings is bigger or smaller than anything else.. > > Why is the human Mind special? I don't recall saying it was..But amongst animals, the human, although intrinsically identical with the dog, is capable of directly realizing the Mind. > > If you're going to say that the human and dog minds have the same > "capacity", then I'm going to respond that your definition of "capacity" is > interesting, but misses some aspects of the commonsense notion of the > "capacity" of a mind... > All things around arise from the Mind including phenomenon, thoughts and other layers of reality and including the subtle consciousness(in my Buddhist lingo: the alaya Vijnana). But the arising and falling is only apparent and like a dream, leaves no stain or trace on Mind itself. > I turn again to the Peircean levels. For Mind as First, there is one mind > and only one mind, and all minds have the same capacity. For Mind as Third, > some minds are more intelligent than others, they hold and can deploy more > relationships than others, and this is a meaningful distinction. This is > the level on which we are operating as AGI engineers. OK. I am certainly not discouraging that on any level... After all, I may just be confused anyway :) > > -- Ben G > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
