--- Jiri Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt, > > We can compute behavior, but nothing indicates we can compute > feelings. Qualia research needed to figure out new platforms for > uploading. > > Regards, > Jiri Jelinek
Of course you realize that qualia is an illusion? You believe that your environment is real, believe that pain and pleasure are real, believe that you can control your thoughts and actions, and fear death because if you did not have these beliefs you would not propagate your DNA. It is not possible for any human to believe otherwise. But logically you know that your brain is just a machine, or else AGI would not be possible. > > > On Nov 4, 2007 1:15 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Jiri Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > Create a numeric "pleasure" variable in your mind, initialize it with > > > a positive number and then keep doubling it for some time. Done? How > > > do you feel? Not a big difference? Oh, keep doubling! ;-)) > > > > The point of autobliss.cpp is to illustrate the flaw in the reasoning that > we > > can somehow through technology, AGI, and uploading, escape a world where > we > > are not happy all the time, where we sometimes feel pain, where we fear > death > > and then die. Obviously my result is absurd. But where is the mistake in > my > > reasoning? Is it "if the brain is both conscious and computable"? -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=61493494-1b1194
