Matt, Create a numeric "pleasure" variable in your mind, initialize it with a positive number and then keep doubling it for some time. Done? How do you feel? Not a big difference? Oh, keep doubling! ;-))
Regards, Jiri Jelinek On Nov 3, 2007 10:01 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- "Edward W. Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If bliss without intelligence is the goal of the machines you imaging > > running the world, for the cost of supporting one human they could > > probably keep at least 100 mice in equal bliss, so if they were driven to > > maximize bliss why wouldn't they kill all the grooving humans and replace > > them with grooving mice. It would provide one hell of a lot more bliss > > bang for the resource buck. > > Allow me to offer a less expensive approach. Previously on the singularity > and sl4 mailing lists I posted a program that can feel pleasure and pain: a 2 > input programmable logic gate trained by reinforcement learning. You give it > an input, it responds, and you reward it. In my latest version, I automated > the process. You tell it which of the 16 logic functions you want it to learn > (AND, OR, XOR, NAND, etc), how much reward to apply for a correct output, and > how much penalty for an incorrect output. The program then generates random > 2-bit inputs, evaluates the output, and applies the specified reward or > punishment. The program runs until you kill it. As it dies it reports its > life history (its age, what it learned, and how much pain and pleasure it > experienced since birth). > > http://mattmahoney.net/autobliss.txt (to run, rename to autobliss.cpp) > > To put the program in an eternal state of bliss, specify two positive numbers, > so that it is rewarded no matter what it does. It won't learn anything, but > at least it will feel good. (You could also put it in continuous pain by > specifying two negative numbers, but I put in safeguards so that it will die > before experiencing too much pain). > > Two problems remain: uploading your mind to this program, and making sure > nobody kills you by turning off the computer or typing Ctrl-C. I will address > only the first problem. > > It is controversial whether technology can preserve your consciousness after > death. If the brain is both conscious and computable, then Chalmers' fading > qualia argument ( http://consc.net/papers/qualia.html ) suggests that a > computer simulation of your brain would also be conscious. > > Whether you *become* this simulation is also controversial. Logically there > are two of you with identical goals and memories. If either one is killed, > then you are in the same state as you were before the copy is made. This is > the same dilemma that Captain Kirk faces when he steps into the transporter to > be vaporized and have an identical copy assembled on the planet below. It > doesn't seem to bother him. Does it bother you that the atoms in your body > now are not the same atoms that made up your body a year ago? > > Let's say your goal is to stimulate your nucleus accumbens. (Everyone has > this goal; they just don't know it). The problem is that you would forgo > food, water, and sleep until you died (we assume, from animal experiments). > The solution is to upload to a computer where this could be done safely. > > Normally an upload would have the same goals, memories, and sensory-motor I/O > as the original brain. But consider the state of this program after self > activation of its reward signal. No other goals are needed, so we can remove > them. Since you no longer have the goal of learning, experiencing sensory > input, or controlling your environment, you won't mind if we replace your I/O > with a 2 bit input and 1 bit output. You are happy, no? > > Finally, if your memories were changed, you would not be aware of it, right? > How do you know that all of your memories were not written into your brain one > second ago and you were some other person before that? So no harm is done if > we replace your memory with a vector of 4 real numbers. That will be all you > need in your new environment. In fact, you won't even need that because you > will cease learning. > > So we can dispense with the complex steps of making a detailed copy of your > brain and then have it transition into a degenerate state, and just skip to > the final result. > > Step 1. Download, compile, and run autobliss 1.0 in a secure location with any > 4-bit logic function and positive reinforcement for both right and wrong > answers, e.g. > > g++ autobliss.cpp -o autobliss.exe > autobliss 0110 5.0 5.0 (or larger numbers for more pleasure) > > Step 2. Kill yourself. Upload complete. > > > > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=60896909-433d26
