Lukas,

If you were right, pleasure through drugs or brain-electrodes wouldn't work.

Regards,
Jiri


On Nov 3, 2007 5:08 PM, Lukas Stafiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that logically pleasure / happiness is just an indicator of
> fulfillment (and rate of fulfillment, perceived stability etc.) of
> interacting "values". "Values" are high-level, abstract goals and
> characteristics of being: understanding, progress, sustaining of
> diversity, wellbeing in general -- love -- communion with other
> persons, exploration, truth (as in "for real", "being oneself" etc.),
> realization of talent... "Values" form a positive feedback. This "pro
> life", "good" positive feedback seems to be the defining bottom line.
> "Values" only have meaning in time, because they are about what
> actions to take. In the limit there is God, beyond time, outside of
> the Karl Jaspers' bottle. I think that personhood is directly
> essential to this, not qualia.
>
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