Ben: After all, I mean: preschoolers have fun and learn a lot mixing flour and butter and eggs and so forth, but how realistic does the physics of such things really have to be to give a generally comparable learning experience???
Ben, They have to be this realistic. !.Explain to me how I or any machine can recognize this (or any individual) human being: http://relationary.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/bengoertzel.jpg in a group of similar "hippies" or humans [I hope you don't mind me using the word - but it's useful here as shorthand]. You can use any of the rational forms you currently use - language, maths, logic, or any kind of program. But I/ the machine must be able then to recognize that man. That challenge can be generalized as : 2.explain to me how I or any machine can recognize any natural object {to be distinguished from artificial objects, which have been human-made to represent rational forms - for example, a ring derived from a geometric circle). explain for example, how I can recognize the boulder at the front from the ones behind in: http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/IMG/LPR/adams.jpg and, by extension, 3. how could I/or any machine distinguish and compare the properties of natural objects - (which is essential for doing physics -) a) whether one object or rock, say, has a rougher surface than another - b) how a liquid flows, and how to distinguish the swirling flows of one liquid from another. c) describe to me, so I or any machine can recognize it, how a box tumbles when I kick it - or perform similar object "experiments" Comment: I think you'll find that you can't deal with, and compare, natural objects at all without images - and preferably not just the flat images of photographs and the like, but the "solid" images of direct, sensory experience. Have you actually ever tried, and attempted to put your claims to any kind of test? ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=123753653-47f84b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
