http://www.ted.com/talks/matt_ridley_when_ideas_have_sex.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2010-07-20&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email

Good lecture worth looking at about how trade - exchange of both goods and 
ideas - has fostered civilisation. Near the end introduces a v. important idea 
- "the collective brain". In other words, our apparently individual 
intelligence is actually a collective intelligence. Nobody he points out 
actually knows how to make a computer mouse, although that may seem 
counterintuitive  - it's an immensely complex piece of equipment, simple as it 
may appear, that engages the collective, interdependent intelligence and 
productive efforts of vast numbers of people.

When you start thinking like that, you realise that there is v. little we know 
how to do, esp of an intellectual nature, individually, without the implicit 
and explicit collaboration of vast numbers of people and sectors of society. 

The fantasy of a superAGI machine that can grow individually without a vast 
society supporting it, is another one of the wild fantasies of AGI-ers and 
Singularitarians that violate truly basic laws of nature. Individual brains 
cannot flourish individually in the real world, only societies of brains (and 
bodies) can. 

(And of course computers can do absolutely nothing or in any way survive 
without their human masters - even if it may appear that way, if you don't look 
properly at their whole operation)


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