Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/26/2002 04:54:26 PM:

>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Would this mean there would be a DTD defined for Gump modules/projects?
>
> There is already.
>
> > One of the hassles I find with Gump (and many other xml-based tools),
is
> > the lack of detail on what is a good vs bad descriptor, what's
optional,
> > what's not, and what everything does. I know there's documentation on
the
> > home pages about it....
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/dtd/
How relevant are they? They were done over 9 months ago by Jason van Zyl.
I've noticed many inconsistencies when editing module descriptors wrt the
ordering of elements.

Does gump use these DTD's itself? I couldn't find any use of it in the
proposal/gump/project directory.

> > And my other question would be, why introduce this to Gump? What is
Gump
> > going to do with the new information? I can understand why you need it
in
> > Centipede, but for Gump where's the value?
>
> It's about publishing info on projects.
Thanks. "Gump is a social experiment. The primary goal of Gump is to get
diverse projects to communicate early and often about integration,
dependencies, and versioning management" from the homepage doesn't really
say that it's about publishing info on projects.

Sounds like that is more like the goal of Forrest:

"Each project will be responsible for maintaining its own documentation and
website, which are imported, aggregated and published automatically by
Forrest. To achieve this goal, we provide XML document grammars for the
different types of documents a projects website typically consists of, and
a Cocoon-based site generation mechanism."

> Gump already does it, and this completes the picture.
Because users of Gump are dying for this at the moment?

> Some tags can also be used to publish information and nags, ie nags can
> be sent , by default, to the dev mailing list.
Rather than to the nag email as specified in the descriptor? Sounds like
duplicate information.

> This would create a project descriptor that can be used conjunctly by
> all Alexandria systems that operate on projects.
Those being?

I'd also be interested in hearing how the new descriptor format compares to
the Centipede descriptor. Sounds awfully like Centipede imposing it's
format on Gump to me.

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> Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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