[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/26/2002 04:54:26 PM:
>>http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/dtd/
> 
> How relevant are they? They were done over 9 months ago by Jason van Zyl.
> I've noticed many inconsistencies when editing module descriptors wrt the
> ordering of elements.
> 
> Does gump use these DTD's itself? I couldn't find any use of it in the
> proposal/gump/project directory.

Hey man, calm down. This is in fact a proposal for a DTD.

You want Gump to use correct DTDs?
Here is the possibility.

>>>And my other question would be, why introduce this to Gump? What is
>>
> Gump
> 
>>>going to do with the new information? I can understand why you need it
>>
> in
> 
>>>Centipede, but for Gump where's the value?
>>
>>It's about publishing info on projects.
> 
> Thanks. "Gump is a social experiment. The primary goal of Gump is to get
> diverse projects to communicate early and often about integration,
> dependencies, and versioning management" from the homepage doesn't really
> say that it's about publishing info on projects.

"diverse projects to communicate early and often about integration"

How the heck can I communicate with a project if I don't even know what 
the project is about?
We're not talking about websites, just snippets of information.
Gump already has tags not essential for the build, these tags just 
enhance it.

> Sounds like that is more like the goal of Forrest:
> 
> "Each project will be responsible for maintaining its own documentation and
> website, which are imported, aggregated and published automatically by
> Forrest. To achieve this goal, we provide XML document grammars for the
> different types of documents a projects website typically consists of, and
> a Cocoon-based site generation mechanism."

"documentation and website"

Do you seriously think that this Gump info is "documentation and website"?

Come on, get real.

>>Gump already does it, and this completes the picture.
> 
> Because users of Gump are dying for this at the moment?

Thank you for the constructive criticism.
A breath of fresh air. NOT.

>>Some tags can also be used to publish information and nags, ie nags can
>>be sent , by default, to the dev mailing list.
> 
> Rather than to the nag email as specified in the descriptor? Sounds like
> duplicate information.

In fact it could reference those emails.
But not be limited to that.

>>This would create a project descriptor that can be used conjunctly by
>>all Alexandria systems that operate on projects.
> 
> Those being?
> 
> I'd also be interested in hearing how the new descriptor format compares to
> the Centipede descriptor. Sounds awfully like Centipede imposing it's
> format on Gump to me.

Ridiculous.

imposing :-))

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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