BTBTW am running Jaws 2024 and Windows 10, if this information is useful!
Tom Kaufman

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From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 8:09 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem

Sorry Dennis, but it wants to download 5.92; am pretty sure I got the right 
thing you're pointing me toward, but it wants to install 5.92!  BTW-it says 
"full" so it looks to me that one can no longer get Winamp 5.91; there may be 
absolutely no difference, but what I know is that Winamp 5.92 looks different, 
unless there is something I've not done or something I'm doing wrong!  As I 
mentioned a little earlier, doesn't seem to matter how I have that "skin" thing 
set, it doesn't change whether you have it on Classic or New!"
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 8:00 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem

ok go to

https://player.winamp.com/trending

arrow down the page until you see

If you feel a bit nostalgic you can
download
  the windows version 5.91.

the download is the link to download 5.91.

On 2/16/2024 5:07 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
> Okay Dennis...tell me again _exactly_ how to get this 5.91?  Best I can tell, 
> the oldest it had is 5.92!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of dennis
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 6:04 PM To:all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>
> yes because i got 5.91.
>
> On 2/16/2024 4:56 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>> Okay...I shut Jaws down...although I've had an occasion to restart the 
>> computer recently, thus, Jaws would have shut down then as well!  So let's 
>> try some of these again; am pretty sure it told me that Winamp was in 
>> "Classic mode"...aw...but it don't look like "classic" to me!  I thought 
>> Dennis said I could get 5.91 (I think that's what I really was supposed to 
>> get; aw...but it's not on that Winamp page; not as far as I can tell!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:all-audio@groups.io   <all-audio@groups.io>   On Behalf Of JM Casey
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:41 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>> Hey.
>>
>> Never used that keystroke either. But it appears to be working here. That is 
>> a JAWS thing though, not a winamp keystroke.
>>
>> The length will show in the playlist editor still though even if that thing 
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> After a test, it appears that alt-r function you are talking about is also a 
>> little goodie Freedom Scientific threw in. So, it sounds like your jaws 
>> winamp commands aren't working right now, or at least some of them. When was 
>> the last time you restarted jaws?
>>
>> You did set it to classic, right?
>>
>> That bar thing that you mentioned, I don't know what it is, but it's 
>> probably something that was there in older versions, too, and which got 
>> turned off. I really don't think they changed the look of Winamp at all.
>>
>>    
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:all-audio@groups.io   <all-audio@groups.io>   On Behalf Of Tom
>> Kaufman
>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:32 PM
>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> Okay...apparently (with this newer Winamp) one can no longer get the length 
>> of a track; used to be, you could do Insert-control-T (at least I think I'm 
>> right) and it'd tell you how long the file is; it's  not working 
>> now...unless you do it differently!
>>
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Kaufman
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:20 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> Well there's this long narrow bar across the screen for one thing; another 
>> thing: although it does say that I can jump to the end of the track with 
>> alt-R, it doesn't work; instead, it says I _must_ be inside the Winamp main 
>> window or playlist editor (which I believe I am) but whenever I do alt-R, 
>> that's the message I get!  I think that that 5.9.1 is what I was supposed to 
>> get, but don't think it's listed in my downloads!
>>
>> Tom
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM 
>> Casey
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:15 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> How does it look different? I can't see anything and the interface seems 
>> exactly the same as it always has been using the classic mode.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Kaufman
>>
>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:12 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> Well it looks different; I have it set to classic skins, but this doesn't 
>> look like my old Winamp; at least it seems to be doing what it's supposed to 
>> do; I can advance through the file and probably other things!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>    
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM 
>> Casey
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:07 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> No, you got the right one. There's only the latest one there.
>>
>> DO you use the library? I don't. But I'd still pick full anyway I guess. Run 
>> the installer again and try it.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Kaufman
>>
>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:04 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
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>> Well...I think it gave me the wrong one as it gave me (I think) 5.92; that's 
>> as far back as it'd go; now it's telling me "not able to display library (or 
>> something) I chose "standard" should I have chosen "full?"
>>
>> Tom Kaufman, who's sorry to be such a pain; am just not seeing the vervage I 
>> expect to see!
>>
>>    
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM 
>> Casey
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:00 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>> Don't worry about that. It just means the download was successful, and the 
>> executable is now in your downloads folder. You'll see that message from 
>> your browser from now on when you download stuff, unless there's another 
>> change to Chromium.
>>
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>>    
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Kaufman
>>
>> Sent: February 16, 2024 4:51 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> Guys:  I just don't know!  I go (on the Winamp page) to where it says 
>> "download!"  However, I'm presented with a message like "this dialog is not 
>> focused; then it says to hit alt-shift-A to focus it...no soap; alt-shift-A 
>> does nothing!  Now what do I do?
>>
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io   
>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>> dennis
>>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 4:15 PM
>>
>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   all-audio@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>>    
>>
>> here it is.
>>
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>>    <https://player.winamp.com/trending>   
>> https://player.winamp.com/trending
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>> go down to almost the bottom of the page. there is a link that says
>> 5.91
>>
>>    
>>
>> On 2/16/2024 3:09 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>
>>> Okay...something is wrong!  I typed in Winamp.com, but am getting something 
>>> that says Player.winamp (or some such mess) anyhow I searched for Winamp 
>>> 5.91, for I think this is what you're saying I want!  But it says it can't 
>>> find anything that matches my search!  So could you send me a direct link 
>>> to the page that has the Winamp version I need?  Thanks!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:all-audio@groups.io    <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   
>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of dennis
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 1:48PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i just installed
>>> 5.91 and everything is ship shape. tom go ahead and download from 
>>> winamp.com. all my pluggins also seam to work just fine.
>>> On 2/16/2024 12:38 PM, dennis via groups.io wrote:
>>>> i'll take a look. i downloaded the 9.1 and will see how it works. 
>>>> if it doesn't i can always re install 09 over it.
>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:36 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>> Hey.
>>>>> I just checked to make sure, and while they seem to have changed 
>>>>> the layout a bit in th e last few months, the download link is 
>>>>> indeed there on the page. The version number is 5.91.
>>>>> You can still use plugins, since winamp pretty much relies on them 
>>>>> to work, however some old plugins may not function anymore. Some 
>>>>> were built in to winamp, like the gracenote plugin. The new 
>>>>> version I believe removes one or two that were part of the 
>>>>> programme. All winamp archive downloads contain a version change 
>>>>> log that goes back at least 20 years, so you can see exactly what 
>>>>> has been done with the different versions, but most of it is 
>>>>> pretty technical behind the scenes stuff that doesn't mean much to the 
>>>>> average user.
>>>>> If you still have old winamp plugins that you got yourself and 
>>>>> that you like, you can try them -- I don't think I really use any 
>>>>> myself, but they should work still.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io    <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   
>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>   On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 1:33 PM
>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem do you have it and 
>>>>> do the pluggins still work as before?i heard that you couldn't use 
>>>>> pluggins any more.
>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:28 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Dennis.
>>>>>> I think you're letting the Winamp.com main page confuse you a bit.
>>>>>> They want you to sign up for an online radio service. I guess 
>>>>>> they make money through this soehow now, probably throughs 
>>>>>> ponsors or something. But that isn't the latest version of 
>>>>>> winamp. The latest version of winamp is v5.9, and it is available from 
>>>>>> winamp.com.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io    <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   
>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:58 PM
>>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem the latest 
>>>>>> version is an online based version. it doesn't opperate as the 
>>>>>> previous versions.
>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 11:55 AM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>>> Why not just download the latest version from winamp.com?
>>>>>>> Is there any reason you decided not to?
>>>>>>> Not that it's necessary or that important; older versions seem 
>>>>>>> to work mostly fine, but if you're going to re-install, you may 
>>>>>>> as well update.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io    <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   
>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of Tom 
>>>>>>> Kaufman
>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:10 PM To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hi Dennis:  So 
>>>>>>> refresh my memory: where do I go to re-install Winamp?  Thanks!
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io    <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>   
>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> dennis
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,202410:51AMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i still think 
>>>>>>> you should re install over that version.
>>>>>>> On 2/15/2024 11:55 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello again list:  I have another problem with Winamp; often 
>>>>>>>> when I open Winamp to play something, the commands won't work; 
>>>>>>>> not able to advance through the file; not able to adjust the 
>>>>>>>> volume.you get the idea!  Every so often, I can alt tab away 
>>>>>>>> (then alt-tab back to it again.  Sometimes this will work, but not all 
>>>>>>>> of the time!
>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what could be going on here and how to make 
>>>>>>>> this player work right again?  I at least am getting the main 
>>>>>>>> window to show, but sometimes.let's say I want to pause the 
>>>>>>>> file; can't always do it and can't understand why!  Thanks for 
>>>>>>>> any ideas you may have to get this thing working right again!
>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
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