Okay...looked in Preferences and in playback, I see nothing that tells me about 
that repeat toggle!  What am I missing?  I don't do that well with treeviews 
anyhow, so I am probably missing a lot; I do see Playback, but it's all "Greek" 
to Me!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 2:29 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem

all i can think of is, look in prefferenses an under playback make shure 
everything looks ok. not a bad idea to check around in there too because 
recently i had advance playback unchecked somehow. when i opened a playlist it 
would only play the first track and i couldn't figure out what was going on 
until i took a look in prefferenses playback and found it. i'm glad you did a 
custome install. i didn't know if you were up to that so i didn't suggest it 
before. hope it works for you.
On 2/18/2024 12:43 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
> Okay...have yet another update for ya: this version of Winamp (after I did a 
> "custom install" seems to look like the original version of Winamp I had!  
> What caused me to re-install this version of Winamp was when I (at one point) 
> heard Jaws say, "Unable to display an appropriate library" so I decided to do 
> a re-install, only I chose to do "custom install"; while I'm still getting 
> that "unable to  display an appropriate library message, it did cause Winamp 
> to look more like what I had been used to seeing from a visual standpoint!  
> However, have discovered a problem: the repeat mode doesn't seem to want to 
> toggle off, although upon pressing the letter "R" does cause Jaws to say 
> repeat mode on or repeat mode off.  However, Repeat mode seems to be turned 
> on, despite the fact that I have pressed "R" to turn it off!  Any ideas as to 
> what else I need to do to turn repeat mode off?
> Tom Kaufman, who says, "thank you" for following this thread!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Kaufman
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 1:18 PM To:all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>
> Okay...here's my update on the Winamp situation: I have downloaded and 
> installed the version of Winamp that Dennis suggested!  It does work better; 
> this is to say that I can do the command that gives me the track length.  
> However, alt-R is still "hit-and-miss; when I first open a file to play, 
> alt-R does nothing!  However, if I close (then re-open) the Winamp main 
> window, alt-R will then take me to the end of the track!  Have no idea of why 
> this is, but I suppose I can learn to live with it; at least it works better 
> than what I had before!  Thanks to Dennis for pointing me to this version of 
> Winamp!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Kaufman
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 1:03 PM To:all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>
> Dennis:  Thank you; gonna head there and see if I can download that version 
> of Winamp and hopefully will get better results than the version I have on 
> there now; I still, however, can't help but wonder if there is either a 
> problem with my computer or maybe my keyboard, although as much as I'm able 
> to tell, Winamp seems to be the only thing that is causing a problem!  Will 
> keep you all updated!
> Thanks,
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of dennis
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 12:30 PM To:all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>
> go to
>
> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
>
> your looking for the link that says.
>
> Winamp 58.3660 Beta. This is a new version of Winamp released October 2018. 8 
> MB.
>
> it works fine.
>
>
> On 2/18/2024 11:25 AM, dennis via groups.io wrote:
>> no its just .92. i'm gonna look and see if there is another site to 
>> get it from.
>>
>> On 2/18/2024 11:08 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>> Okay Dennis...is this 5.909 on that same page as where 5.092 is?
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>   On Behalf Of dennis
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 12:06 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>> btw: i had to go back to 5.909 because 9.2 was freezing my computer.
>>>
>>> On 2/18/2024 11:03 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>> I guess I am still unclear as to where (exactly) and how I'm 
>>>> supposed to get there; as I stated before, I'm going to preferences 
>>>> and do see where it says "skins" (is in a treeview) but again...all 
>>>> I see are modern and classic (it's set on classic) at least that's 
>>>> what I see, so there appears to be nothing more I can do!  But if 
>>>> someone can steer me in the right direction, that may help!
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of JM
>>>> Casey
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 5:58PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>
>>>> Are you looking in the preferences tree view? The skins area has 
>>>> some subcategories, and in the general skins area, you will see 
>>>> installed skins, and information about the current one that is set, 
>>>> which should be classic, but you'll know for sure when you check it.
>>>> Within the skins category you should see subentries for classic and 
>>>> modern skins, each of which has  settings associated with it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of Tom
>>>> Kaufman
>>>> Sent: February 17, 2024 5:53 PM
>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>
>>>> In Skins, I see two choices, Modern and Classic (I have it set to 
>>>> Classic"; that's all I'm seeing, unless there's another area that 
>>>> says "skins" that I don't know where it would be!
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of JM
>>>> Casey
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 5:43PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>
>>>> Hey.
>>>> No, I'm sure your computer is fine; this isn't something to spend 
>>>> money and huge effort on, you just have to figure out what to tweak 
>>>> in settings.
>>>> Look in the skins area. You'll see installed skins. Focus on the 
>>>> classic one, as that's the one you should be using, and check out 
>>>> the options there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of Tom
>>>> Kaufman
>>>> Sent: February 17, 2024 4:43 PM
>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>
>>>> Okay, tell me how to change the visualization; maybe that's what's 
>>>> messing everything up!  I must reiterate that as far as changing 
>>>> the skin selection, there is no "changing it" not as far as I see; 
>>>> it just stays the same, although there _must_ be a way of changing 
>>>> it to classic skin; must be something that's hidden from me!  As 
>>>> for Jaws, am running 2024 (which I had running with the other 
>>>> Winamp; never a problem before!  I'd hate to think that it's 
>>>> something with my computer; these computer guys want an arm and a 
>>>> leg just to come and look at it!  There is _no place_ here in town 
>>>> where I could even carry it to; even if there were, I don't know how I'd 
>>>> get it there!
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of dennis
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 4:12PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>
>>>> i did a custom install and did not install any visualization at all.
>>>> it works the same as always. i bet your problem is along the 
>>>> visualization rout.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/17/2024 1:18 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth is that whoever is working on the winamp programme now 
>>>>> is probably a very small development team, and it isn't 
>>>>> necessarily a priority project for whoever now runs winamp.com as 
>>>>> a whole. So on the page it says 5.91 still, but that isn't the 
>>>>> version that's there anymore. I do think not putting the version 
>>>>> number in the filename of the installer exe is silly, but whether 
>>>>> you have 5.91 or 5.92, it'll likely make little or no difference 
>>>>> to you. You saw the changes I posted earlier. There was no 
>>>>> interface overhaul, and there never really has been -- the only 
>>>>> reason winamp is really still around is that people like the look 
>>>>> of the thing, and now it's a nostalgia thing for people apparently 
>>>>> (not those of us who always used it and never saw any huge reason 
>>>>> to stop of course), so theyr'e not going to change the appearance 
>>>>> of it  so long as they keep the desktop programme around.
>>>>> As for the  annoying bar, I still can't tell you what it is from 
>>>>> your description, but there's likely a way to be rid of it if you 
>>>>> don't like it. I think you'll have to play around with the 
>>>>> settings; do some experiments and see what you come up with.
>>>>> As for the JAWS commands not working, yes, it could have something 
>>>>> to do with the interface not being as expected, and so the scripts 
>>>>> that execute the commands aren't finding what is expected to be 
>>>>> there. Again, go into your settings and see what you find. You 
>>>>> might particularly want to look at the skins area of the tree view.
>>>>> I have visualisations set to off, no spectrum analyser, etc. Not 
>>>>> sure if that would make a difference or not -- I used to live with 
>>>>> a sighted person and some of that stuff was on, but winamp still 
>>>>> seemed to work as I expected it to. Still, maybe you can try 
>>>>> messing with it and see.
>>>>> Another thing to consider is JAWS itself. DO you have an older 
>>>>> version of JAWS on your computer? Perhaps try running that, and 
>>>>> see if the scripts work the way they're supposed to there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of Tom 
>>>>> Kaufman
>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 10:06 PM
>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah...a little tricky; it kind of leads you to believe that 
>>>>> you're gonna get 5.91 (and you don't know until you start to 
>>>>> install) that it is, in fact, 5.92; may be as Casey is saying "not 
>>>>> really any difference" probably just a coincidence that I'm seeing 
>>>>> the change; furthermore, I guess that the way it's appearing to me 
>>>>> is something that I'm just "stuck with" it's just frustrating when 
>>>>> some of those commands that _always_ worked for me; now it's 
>>>>> hit-and-miss!"  I sometimes can alt-tab away; then alt-tab back to 
>>>>> Winamp and it'll go ahead and work as supposed to! But unless 
>>>>> someone can tell me of a good "fix" guess I'm just stuck with limping 
>>>>> along with it as it is!
>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of JM 
>>>>> Casey
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 20248:50PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Dennis.
>>>>> It says 5.91 on the page there, but it is in fact the next version 
>>>>> that one downloads when one clicks on it. The filename is exactly 
>>>>> the same too, so the only way to check is to open the archive, but 
>>>>> yes, I have verified it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> dennis
>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 8:00 PM
>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>
>>>>> ok go to
>>>>>
>>>>> https://player.winamp.com/trending
>>>>>
>>>>> arrow down the page until you see
>>>>>
>>>>> If you feel a bit nostalgic you can download
>>>>>       the windows version 5.91.
>>>>>
>>>>> the download is the link to download 5.91.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/16/2024 5:07 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>> Okay Dennis...tell me again _exactly_ how to get this 5.91?  Best 
>>>>>> I can tell, the oldest it had is 5.92!
>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>      On Behalf Of
>>>>>> dennis
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,20246:04PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes because i got 5.91.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 4:56 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay...I shut Jaws down...although I've had an occasion to 
>>>>>>> restart the computer recently, thus, Jaws would have shut down 
>>>>>>> then as well!  So let's try some of these again; am pretty sure 
>>>>>>> it told me that Winamp was in "Classic mode"...aw...but it don't 
>>>>>>> look like "classic" to me!  I thought Dennis said I could get
>>>>>>> 5.91 (I think that's what I really was supposed to get; aw...but 
>>>>>>> it's not on that Winamp page; not as far as I can tell!
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>       On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> JM Casey
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,20245:41PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never used that keystroke either. But it appears to be working 
>>>>>>> here. That is a JAWS thing though, not a winamp keystroke.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The length will show in the playlist editor still though even if 
>>>>>>> that thing doesn't work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After a test, it appears that alt-r function you are talking 
>>>>>>> about is also a little goodie Freedom Scientific threw in. So, 
>>>>>>> it sounds like your jaws winamp commands aren't working right 
>>>>>>> now, or at least some of them. When was the last time you restarted 
>>>>>>> jaws?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You did set it to classic, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That bar thing that you mentioned, I don't know what it is, but 
>>>>>>> it's probably something that was there in older versions, too, 
>>>>>>> and which got turned off. I really don't think they changed the 
>>>>>>> look of Winamp at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>       On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:32 PM
>>>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay...apparently (with this newer Winamp) one can no longer get 
>>>>>>> the length of a track; used to be, you could do Insert-control-T 
>>>>>>> (at least I think I'm right) and it'd tell you how long the file 
>>>>>>> is; it's  not working now...unless you do it differently!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:20 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well there's this long narrow bar across the screen for one 
>>>>>>> thing; another thing: although it does say that I can jump to 
>>>>>>> the end of the track with alt-R, it doesn't work; instead, it 
>>>>>>> says I _must_ be inside the Winamp main window or playlist 
>>>>>>> editor (which I believe I am) but whenever I do alt-R, that's 
>>>>>>> the message I get!  I think that that 5.9.1 is what I was 
>>>>>>> supposed to get, but don't think it's listed in my downloads!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> JM Casey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:15 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does it look different? I can't see anything and the 
>>>>>>> interface seems exactly the same as it always has been using the 
>>>>>>> classic mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:12 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well it looks different; I have it set to classic skins, but 
>>>>>>> this doesn't look like my old Winamp; at least it seems to be 
>>>>>>> doing what it's supposed to do; I can advance through the file 
>>>>>>> and probably other things!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> JM Casey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:07 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you got the right one. There's only the latest one there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DO you use the library? I don't. But I'd still pick full anyway 
>>>>>>> I guess. Run the installer again and try it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:04 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well...I think it gave me the wrong one as it gave me (I think) 
>>>>>>> 5.92; that's as far back as it'd go; now it's telling me "not 
>>>>>>> able to display library (or something) I chose "standard" should 
>>>>>>> I have chosen "full?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman, who's sorry to be such a pain; am just not seeing 
>>>>>>> the vervage I expect to see!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> JM Casey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:00 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't worry about that. It just means the download was 
>>>>>>> successful, and the executable is now in your downloads folder.
>>>>>>> You'll see that message from your browser from now on when you 
>>>>>>> download stuff, unless there's another change to Chromium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 4:51 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guys:  I just don't know!  I go (on the Winamp page) to where it 
>>>>>>> says "download!"  However, I'm presented with a message like 
>>>>>>> "this dialog is not focused; then it says to hit alt-shift-A to 
>>>>>>> focus it...no soap; alt-shift-A does nothing!  Now what do I do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io 
>>>>>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> dennis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 4:15 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://player.winamp.com/trending>
>>>>>>> https://player.winamp.com/trending
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> go down to almost the bottom of the page. there is a link that 
>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>> 5.91
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 3:09 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay...something is wrong!  I typed in Winamp.com, but am 
>>>>>>>> getting something that says Player.winamp (or some such mess) 
>>>>>>>> anyhow I searched for Winamp 5.91, for I think this is what 
>>>>>>>> you're saying I want!  But it says it can't find anything that 
>>>>>>>> matches my search!  So could you send me a direct link to the 
>>>>>>>> page that has the Winamp version I need?  Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> 
>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,20241:48PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i just 
>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>> 5.91 and everything is ship shape. tom go ahead and download 
>>>>>>>> from winamp.com. all my pluggins also seam to work just fine.
>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:38 PM, dennis via groups.io wrote:
>>>>>>>>> i'll take a look. i downloaded the 9.1 and will see how it works.
>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't i can always re install 09 over it.
>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:36 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hey.
>>>>>>>>>> I just checked to make sure, and while they seem to have 
>>>>>>>>>> changed the layout a bit in th e last few months, the 
>>>>>>>>>> download link is indeed there on the page. The version number is 
>>>>>>>>>> 5.91.
>>>>>>>>>> You can still use plugins, since winamp pretty much relies on 
>>>>>>>>>> them to work, however some old plugins may not function anymore.
>>>>>>>>>> Some were built in to winamp, like the gracenote plugin. The 
>>>>>>>>>> new version I believe removes one or two that were part of 
>>>>>>>>>> the programme. All winamp archive downloads contain a version 
>>>>>>>>>> change log that goes back at least 20 years, so you can see 
>>>>>>>>>> exactly what has been done with the different versions, but 
>>>>>>>>>> most of it is pretty technical behind the scenes stuff that 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't mean much to the average user.
>>>>>>>>>> If you still have old winamp plugins that you got yourself 
>>>>>>>>>> and that you like, you can try them -- I don't think I really 
>>>>>>>>>> use any myself, but they should work still.
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  
>>>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>   On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 1:33 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem do you have 
>>>>>>>>>> it and do the pluggins still work as before?i heard that you 
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't use pluggins any more.
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:28 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Dennis.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you're letting the Winamp.com main page confuse you 
>>>>>>>>>>> a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>> They want you to sign up for an online radio service. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> guess they make money through this soehow now, probably 
>>>>>>>>>>> throughs ponsors or something. But that isn't the latest 
>>>>>>>>>>> version of winamp. The latest version of winamp is v5.9, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> it is available from winamp.com.
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>  
>>>>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 202412:58PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem the latest 
>>>>>>>>>>> version is an online based version. it doesn't opperate as 
>>>>>>>>>>> the previous versions.
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 11:55 AM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not just download the latest version from winamp.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any reason you decided not to?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that it's necessary or that important; older versions 
>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to work mostly fine, but if you're going to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> re-install, you may as well update.
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: February 16,202412:10PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hi Dennis:
>>>>>>>>>>>> So refresh my memory: where do I go to re-install Winamp?  Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io  <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,202410:51AMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i still 
>>>>>>>>>>>> think you should re install over that version.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2024 11:55 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello again list:  I have another problem with Winamp; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> often when I open Winamp to play something, the commands 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't work; not able to advance through the file; not able 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to adjust the volume.you get the idea!  Every so often, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can alt tab away (then alt-tab back to it again.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes this will work, but not all of the time!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what could be going on here and how to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make this player work right again?  I at least am getting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the main window to show, but sometimes.let's say I want to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pause the file; can't always do it and can't understand why!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any ideas you may have to get this thing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working right again!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
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