On 2/18/2024 12:43 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Okay...have yet another update for ya: this version of Winamp (after I did a "custom install" seems to look like the original version of Winamp I had! What caused me to re-install this version of Winamp was when I (at one point) heard Jaws say, "Unable to display an appropriate library" so I decided to do a re-install, only I chose to do "custom install"; while I'm still getting that "unable to display an appropriate library message, it did cause Winamp to look more like what I had been used to seeing from a visual standpoint! However, have discovered a problem: the repeat mode doesn't seem to want to toggle off, although upon pressing the letter "R" does cause Jaws to say repeat mode on or repeat mode off. However, Repeat mode seems to be turned on, despite the fact that I have pressed "R" to turn it off! Any ideas as to what else I need to do to turn repeat mode off? Tom Kaufman, who says, "thank you" for following this thread!-----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 1:18 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Okay...here's my update on the Winamp situation: I have downloaded and installed the version of Winamp that Dennis suggested! It does work better; this is to say that I can do the command that gives me the track length. However, alt-R is still "hit-and-miss; when I first open a file to play, alt-R does nothing! However, if I close (then re-open) the Winamp main window, alt-R will then take me to the end of the track! Have no idea of why this is, but I suppose I can learn to live with it; at least it works better than what I had before! Thanks to Dennis for pointing me to this version of Winamp! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 1:03 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Dennis: Thank you; gonna head there and see if I can download that version of Winamp and hopefully will get better results than the version I have on there now; I still, however, can't help but wonder if there is either a problem with my computer or maybe my keyboard, although as much as I'm able to tell, Winamp seems to be the only thing that is causing a problem! Will keep you all updated! Thanks, Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 12:30 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem go to http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html your looking for the link that says. Winamp 58.3660 Beta. This is a new version of Winamp released October 2018. 8 MB. it works fine. On 2/18/2024 11:25 AM, dennis via groups.io wrote:no its just .92. i'm gonna look and see if there is another site to get it from. On 2/18/2024 11:08 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:Okay Dennis...is this 5.909 on that same page as where 5.092 is? Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 12:06 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem btw: i had to go back to 5.909 because 9.2 was freezing my computer. On 2/18/2024 11:03 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:I guess I am still unclear as to where (exactly) and how I'm supposed to get there; as I stated before, I'm going to preferences and do see where it says "skins" (is in a treeview) but again...all I see are modern and classic (it's set on classic) at least that's what I see, so there appears to be nothing more I can do! But if someone can steer me in the right direction, that may help! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 5:58PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Are you looking in the preferences tree view? The skins area has some subcategories, and in the general skins area, you will see installed skins, and information about the current one that is set, which should be classic, but you'll know for sure when you check it. Within the skins category you should see subentries for classic and modern skins, each of which has settings associated with it. -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: February 17, 2024 5:53 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem In Skins, I see two choices, Modern and Classic (I have it set to Classic"; that's all I'm seeing, unless there's another area that says "skins" that I don't know where it would be! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 5:43PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hey. No, I'm sure your computer is fine; this isn't something to spend money and huge effort on, you just have to figure out what to tweak in settings. Look in the skins area. You'll see installed skins. Focus on the classic one, as that's the one you should be using, and check out the options there. -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: February 17, 2024 4:43 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Okay, tell me how to change the visualization; maybe that's what's messing everything up! I must reiterate that as far as changing the skin selection, there is no "changing it" not as far as I see; it just stays the same, although there _must_ be a way of changing it to classic skin; must be something that's hidden from me! As for Jaws, am running 2024 (which I had running with the other Winamp; never a problem before! I'd hate to think that it's something with my computer; these computer guys want an arm and a leg just to come and look at it! There is _no place_ here in town where I could even carry it to; even if there were, I don't know how I'd get it there! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 4:12PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i did a custom install and did not install any visualization at all. it works the same as always. i bet your problem is along the visualization rout. On 2/17/2024 1:18 PM, JM Casey wrote:. The truth is that whoever is working on the winamp programme now is probably a very small development team, and it isn't necessarily a priority project for whoever now runs winamp.com as a whole. So on the page it says 5.91 still, but that isn't the version that's there anymore. I do think not putting the version number in the filename of the installer exe is silly, but whether you have 5.91 or 5.92, it'll likely make little or no difference to you. You saw the changes I posted earlier. There was no interface overhaul, and there never really has been -- the only reason winamp is really still around is that people like the look of the thing, and now it's a nostalgia thing for people apparently (not those of us who always used it and never saw any huge reason to stop of course), so theyr'e not going to change the appearance of it so long as they keep the desktop programme around. As for the annoying bar, I still can't tell you what it is from your description, but there's likely a way to be rid of it if you don't like it. I think you'll have to play around with the settings; do some experiments and see what you come up with. As for the JAWS commands not working, yes, it could have something to do with the interface not being as expected, and so the scripts that execute the commands aren't finding what is expected to be there. Again, go into your settings and see what you find. You might particularly want to look at the skins area of the tree view. I have visualisations set to off, no spectrum analyser, etc. Not sure if that would make a difference or not -- I used to live with a sighted person and some of that stuff was on, but winamp still seemed to work as I expected it to. Still, maybe you can try messing with it and see. Another thing to consider is JAWS itself. DO you have an older version of JAWS on your computer? Perhaps try running that, and see if the scripts work the way they're supposed to there. -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: February 16, 2024 10:06 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Yeah...a little tricky; it kind of leads you to believe that you're gonna get 5.91 (and you don't know until you start to install) that it is, in fact, 5.92; may be as Casey is saying "not really any difference" probably just a coincidence that I'm seeing the change; furthermore, I guess that the way it's appearing to me is something that I'm just "stuck with" it's just frustrating when some of those commands that _always_ worked for me; now it's hit-and-miss!" I sometimes can alt-tab away; then alt-tab back to Winamp and it'll go ahead and work as supposed to! But unless someone can tell me of a good "fix" guess I'm just stuck with limping along with it as it is! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Friday, February 16, 20248:50PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hey Dennis. It says 5.91 on the page there, but it is in fact the next version that one downloads when one clicks on it. The filename is exactly the same too, so the only way to check is to open the archive, but yes, I have verified it. -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis Sent: February 16, 2024 8:00 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem ok go to https://player.winamp.com/trending arrow down the page until you see If you feel a bit nostalgic you can download the windows version 5.91. the download is the link to download 5.91. On 2/16/2024 5:07 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:Okay Dennis...tell me again _exactly_ how to get this 5.91? Best I can tell, the oldest it had is 5.92! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Friday, February 16,20246:04PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem yes because i got 5.91. On 2/16/2024 4:56 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:Okay...I shut Jaws down...although I've had an occasion to restart the computer recently, thus, Jaws would have shut down then as well! So let's try some of these again; am pretty sure it told me that Winamp was in "Classic mode"...aw...but it don't look like "classic" to me! I thought Dennis said I could get 5.91 (I think that's what I really was supposed to get; aw...but it's not on that Winamp page; not as far as I can tell! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Friday, February 16,20245:41PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hey. Never used that keystroke either. But it appears to be working here. That is a JAWS thing though, not a winamp keystroke. The length will show in the playlist editor still though even if that thing doesn't work. After a test, it appears that alt-r function you are talking about is also a little goodie Freedom Scientific threw in. So, it sounds like your jaws winamp commands aren't working right now, or at least some of them. When was the last time you restarted jaws? You did set it to classic, right? That bar thing that you mentioned, I don't know what it is, but it's probably something that was there in older versions, too, and which got turned off. I really don't think they changed the look of Winamp at all. -----Original Message----- From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: February 16, 2024 5:32 PM To:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Okay...apparently (with this newer Winamp) one can no longer get the length of a track; used to be, you could do Insert-control-T (at least I think I'm right) and it'd tell you how long the file is; it's not working now...unless you do it differently! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom KaufmanSent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:20 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Well there's this long narrow bar across the screen for one thing; another thing: although it does say that I can jump to the end of the track with alt-R, it doesn't work; instead, it says I _must_ be inside the Winamp main window or playlist editor (which I believe I am) but whenever I do alt-R, that's the message I get! I think that that 5.9.1 is what I was supposed to get, but don't think it's listed in my downloads! Tom -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM CaseySent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:15 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem How does it look different? I can't see anything and the interface seems exactly the same as it always has been using the classic mode. -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom KaufmanSent: February 16, 2024 5:12 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Well it looks different; I have it set to classic skins, but this doesn't look like my old Winamp; at least it seems to be doing what it's supposed to do; I can advance through the file and probably other things! Tom -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM CaseySent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:07 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem No, you got the right one. There's only the latest one there. DO you use the library? I don't. But I'd still pick full anyway I guess. Run the installer again and try it. -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom KaufmanSent: February 16, 2024 5:04 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Well...I think it gave me the wrong one as it gave me (I think) 5.92; that's as far back as it'd go; now it's telling me "not able to display library (or something) I chose "standard" should I have chosen "full?" Tom Kaufman, who's sorry to be such a pain; am just not seeing the vervage I expect to see! -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM CaseySent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:00 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Tom. Don't worry about that. It just means the download was successful, and the executable is now in your downloads folder. You'll see that message from your browser from now on when you download stuff, unless there's another change to Chromium. -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom KaufmanSent: February 16, 2024 4:51 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Guys: I just don't know! I go (on the Winamp page) to where it says "download!" However, I'm presented with a message like "this dialog is not focused; then it says to hit alt-shift-A to focus it...no soap; alt-shift-A does nothing! Now what do I do? Tom Kaufman -----Original Message-----From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennisSent: Friday, February 16, 2024 4:15 PM To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem here it is. <https://player.winamp.com/trending> https://player.winamp.com/trending go down to almost the bottom of the page. there is a link that says 5.91 On 2/16/2024 3:09 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:Okay...something is wrong! I typed in Winamp.com, but am getting something that says Player.winamp (or some such mess) anyhow I searched for Winamp 5.91, for I think this is what you're saying I want! But it says it can't find anything that matches my search! So could you send me a direct link to the page that has the Winamp version I need? Thanks! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message-----From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennisSent: Friday, February 16,20241:48PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i just installed 5.91 and everything is ship shape. tom go ahead and download from winamp.com. all my pluggins also seam to work just fine. On 2/16/2024 12:38 PM, dennis via groups.io wrote:i'll take a look. i downloaded the 9.1 and will see how it works. if it doesn't i can always re install 09 over it. On 2/16/2024 12:36 PM, JM Casey wrote:Hey. I just checked to make sure, and while they seem to have changed the layout a bit in th e last few months, the download link is indeed there on the page. The version number is 5.91. You can still use plugins, since winamp pretty much relies on them to work, however some old plugins may not function anymore. Some were built in to winamp, like the gracenote plugin. The new version I believe removes one or two that were part of the programme. All winamp archive downloads contain a version change log that goes back at least 20 years, so you can see exactly what has been done with the different versions, but most of it is pretty technical behind the scenes stuff that doesn't mean much to the average user. If you still have old winamp plugins that you got yourself and that you like, you can try them -- I don't think I really use any myself, but they should work still. -----Original Message-----From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennisSent: February 16, 2024 1:33 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem do you have it and do the pluggins still work as before?i heard that you couldn't use pluggins any more. On 2/16/2024 12:28 PM, JM Casey wrote:Hey Dennis. I think you're letting the Winamp.com main page confuse you a bit. They want you to sign up for an online radio service. I guess they make money through this soehow now, probably throughs ponsors or something. But that isn't the latest version of winamp. The latest version of winamp is v5.9, and it is available from winamp.com. -----Original Message-----From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennisSent: February 16, 202412:58PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem the latest version is an online based version. it doesn't opperate as the previous versions. On 2/16/2024 11:55 AM, JM Casey wrote:Why not just download the latest version from winamp.com? Is there any reason you decided not to? Not that it's necessary or that important; older versions seem to work mostly fine, but if you're going to re-install, you may as well update. -----Original Message-----From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom KaufmanSent: February 16,202412:10PMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hi Dennis: So refresh my memory: where do I go to re-install Winamp? Thanks! Tom Kaufman -----Original Message-----From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennisSent: Friday, February 16,202410:51AMTo:all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i still think you should re install over that version. On 2/15/2024 11:55 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:Hello again list: I have another problem with Winamp; often when I open Winamp to play something, the commands won't work; not able to advance through the file; not able to adjust the volume.you get the idea! Every so often, I can alt tab away (then alt-tab back to it again. Sometimes this will work, but not all of the time! Can anyone tell me what could be going on here and how to make this player work right again? I at least am getting the main window to show, but sometimes.let's say I want to pause the file; can't always do it and can't understand why! Thanks for any ideas you may have to get this thing working right again! Tom Kaufman-- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com-- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com-- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com-- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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