Good point.

My view is that one can be reasonably solved technically without human
intervention and one is not.

I love to see a working scalable technical solution that can identify
copyright content in an encrypted stream.

-James Seng

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:02 AM, DePriest, Greg (NBC Universal)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That seems like a constructive suggestion.  Thank you.
>
> I do have one question regarding policies.
>
> Why is protecting privacy a requirement and protecting copyrighted
> content a policy?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:43 PM
> To: Nicholas Weaver
> Cc: DePriest, Greg (NBC Universal); [email protected]; Arnaud Legout; Paul
> Jessop; Craig Seidel; Le Blond, Stevens
> Subject: Re: [alto] Paper on "Pushing BitTorrent Locality to the Limit"
>
> It strikes me that the discovery of illegal content is a local policy
> decision. There are jurisdictions that require it and those that forbid
> it. Perhaps ALTO needs to support a policy option that allows content
> descriptors to be queried, blocked, or redirected in the interest of
> local laws and regulations.
>
> I don't want to spoil anybody's fun, of course.
>
> RB
>
> Nicholas Weaver wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2008, at 1:15 PM, DePriest, Greg (NBC Universal) wrote:
>>
>>> You note that "A localization service doesn't have to discriminate
>>> [between legit and illegit P2P]..."
>>>
>>> I don't understand why it wouldn't.
>>>
>>> What's the point of facilitating the illegal distribution of
> copyrighted
>>> content?
>>>
>>> And how would one justify that?
>>
>> Under the same justification that you allow BitTorrent at all: You
>> DON'T know that it is copyrighted, it could be Linux ISOs, with enough
>
>> probability that you can't just block the protocol and you can't sue
>> BitTorrent Inc into submission under the Napster and related methods.
>>
>> Or that you allow HTTP traffic, after all, that could be copyrighted
>> material, kiddie porn, or other bad content.
>>
>> It is not the responsibility of the network to police content, and a
>> localization service doesn't actually have to know what it is
>> localizing, so it is not in a position to police content one way or
>> the other.
>>
>> EG, ask localization service "Who else is accessing 512b-random-ID
>> SHA-512 file descriptor", and the localization service has no notion
>> what the resource is, just a list of who's accessing it.  Its in many
>> ways easier to make a localization service which is agnostic.
>>
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