We should focus on solving the technical problem of optimizing P2P the
ALTO was created for. I do not believe that ALTO solution should try to
enforce local laws pertaining to P2P traffic at this point. There are
other solutions on the market that deal with this space today.

Andrew 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Bennett
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:43 PM
> To: Nicholas Weaver
> Cc: Le Blond, Stevens ; DePriest,Greg (NBC Universal); Arnaud 
> Legout; [email protected]; Paul Jessop; Craig Seidel
> Subject: Re: [alto] Paper on "Pushing BitTorrent Locality to 
> the Limit"
> 
> It strikes me that the discovery of illegal content is a 
> local policy decision. There are jurisdictions that require 
> it and those that forbid it. Perhaps ALTO needs to support a 
> policy option that allows content descriptors to be queried, 
> blocked, or redirected in the interest of local laws and regulations.
> 
> I don't want to spoil anybody's fun, of course.
> 
> RB
> 
> Nicholas Weaver wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2008, at 1:15 PM, DePriest, Greg (NBC Universal) wrote:
> >
> >> You note that "A localization service doesn't have to discriminate 
> >> [between legit and illegit P2P]..."
> >>
> >> I don't understand why it wouldn't.
> >>
> >> What's the point of facilitating the illegal distribution of 
> >> copyrighted content?
> >>
> >> And how would one justify that?
> >
> > Under the same justification that you allow BitTorrent at all: You 
> > DON'T know that it is copyrighted, it could be Linux ISOs, 
> with enough 
> > probability that you can't just block the protocol and you 
> can't sue 
> > BitTorrent Inc into submission under the Napster and 
> related methods.
> >
> > Or that you allow HTTP traffic, after all, that could be 
> copyrighted 
> > material, kiddie porn, or other bad content.
> >
> > It is not the responsibility of the network to police 
> content, and a 
> > localization service doesn't actually have to know what it is 
> > localizing, so it is not in a position to police content one way or 
> > the other.
> >
> > EG, ask localization service "Who else is accessing 512b-random-ID
> > SHA-512 file descriptor", and the localization service has 
> no notion 
> > what the resource is, just a list of who's accessing it.  
> Its in many 
> > ways easier to make a localization service which is agnostic.
> >
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