On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > Hi, > this mail is about the OIM system and stats... > First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... > But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't > use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use > SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on > the authentication way...
Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a solution to socks +http, and we'll use it ,so http package will still be used ;) > Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great > but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to > implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid > in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you need a username/password. which is why I published, until we put it public... > Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... > How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins > by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins > will never be at the top... hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p > If someone has an idea... don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view top 10' link.. > Phil > > Youness Alaoui a écrit : > > Hello all, > > first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats > > that we get from our website, thanks > > to lePhilousophe! > > so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much time.. > > at the speed we're at, it will take > > a really long time before we get it out, although we're "almost" there.. > > the original deadline was april 1st, > > then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it stalled.. > > so I hope we still get amsn out for > > april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? > > well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : > > New Complete 0.97 TODO : > > - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) > > (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F > > - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) > > - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) > > (make it work behind proxies) > > - Finish the new Skin > > - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL > > - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) > > > > > > I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : > > - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) > > (make it work behind proxies) > > So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap > > makes it very very slow, so I wonder > > if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because > > we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we > > generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, > > so.. it's useless apart from adding an > > incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. > > so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have > > support for proxies because it seems > > almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. > > so the question is : > > 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think > > that the pc freezing for a few minutes > > is a big deal > > 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? > > > > - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) > > This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now > > the thing is that we'll have to > > integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat > > window->edit->edit a/v settings, but the old > > webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs->other->configure webcam. > > we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about > > whether you're firewalled or not, > > etc.. so we could either : > > 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the > > firewall thing elsewhere > > 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the > > button 'change webcam settings') by > > the assistant > > 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace > > the whole configure webcam button. > > > > > > - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) > > (make it work behind proxies) > > well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so .. what do we want to > > do now : > > 1- drop the feature > > 2 - complete it > > 3- leave it half-way done > > 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' > > > > > > - Finish the new Skin > > humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments in > > his own TODO list, so I don't know how > > far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make > > it 'look nice', I like it very much > > the way it is right now, apart from the colors/bg and when the status > > (away) is in grey and the bg behind it > > grey, you can't see the status of a user, etc... so maybe just work on > > that.. > > So, could Gus or Lee give us a status report on this please ? thanks > > > > > > - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL > > this is already done, we only need to add a one liner :checkbutton $w > > -variable [::config::getvar > > orderuserbystatus] > > the questionis WHERE TO PUT IT? advanced pref? the 'view' menu ? where ? > > > > - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) > > > > yeay!! it looks almost complete, a few small issues, especially the 'forget > > me' and the placing of the elements, > > depending on the size of the main window, it's great work so far, let's > > hope it gets finished soon! > > > > > > > > In other words, I see that we almost finished, if we all take a few minutes > > someday and try to work on the TODO > > stuff instead of working on non-TODO related things (or watching tv :p) > > thenw e could be able to get 0.97 out > > really soon! so what do you suggest guys (+viv:p) ? I asked a few > > questions/options for some todo items above, > > could everyone try to give their opinions on those things ? this way we can > > sort out the TODO list and make it > > smaller until we get 0.97 in a usable state.. > > thanks all for reading this! > > > > Now, my second part of my mail (smaller this time, don't worry :p) is that, > > a couple of days ago (maybe a week > > ago?) Phil modified the website and added statistics to every file > > downloaded by the user, so now, we have a > > count on how many downloads we got per plugin and per skin and per > > screenshot.. the results are quite > > interesting, but to access the stats, you need to have admin access to the > > website, so I thought it would be > > nice to share this information to you guys too.. > > ok, I just checked amsn-commits and Phil added the feat on March 5th, so > > it's been exactly a week.. so one week > > of stats, give us this : > > > > <snip> > > > > So congrats to the skin developers and plugin developers who scored top10 > > :) > > > > that's all for today! > > > > p.s.: if you reply to this mail, don't just say 'wow, cool stats', at least > > time the time to answer my questions > > about the TODO! > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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