Ok, I see, the hide the mini infobar (I call it like that for the bar in the CW) when FT managr is opened, I think it would be confusing, no ? how do you feel about it with that extension you're using ? maybe it's ok because you enabled it to be that way, no ? Anyways, the main issue you're bringing here is about the DM (FTMan) being in a tab or not. I explained all my design in a previous mail, and it was to appear in a tab of the currently focused container whenever you open the DM (by either accepting a file and having the option to show when you start a transfer, or by using the Ctrl-Alt-T hotkey), if you have multiple containers, then you would have a DM window as a tab in each container (only if you open the transfer window while having the container focused). You can always detach the DM tab, or you can have it appear as a separate window if you don't use tabbed browsing. Now that I'm thinking about it, it would be good to have an option for 'show as a tab' or 'show as a standalone window' for when user has tabbed windows enabled.
Anyways, just to be sure everyone understand my design again : you start a transfer, DM opens, you can choose to either have it open in a tab or in a standalone window, you can choose to have it open when you start transfers, or have it opened in the background (without switching to its tab/minimized window) when you start a transfer, or you can choose for it not to pop up when you start a transfer. When you start a transfer from a CW, you also want to see the progress in that CW, so a small one line 'infobar' would pop above the buttonbar where it would show filename, percentage completed, time remaining (maybe size/speed?. We could make it show info depending on the width of the CW, if the CW is maximized, use all the space to show size/speed too, if window is small, then remove size/speed, and show only the most important data (percentage completed). You would have one line in the infobar per download currently happening in the current CW. Clicking on the infobar would open the DM, and depending on the file you clicked on, it would select that file in the DM listbox. The DM would have three parts (I'm following opera's design), the top containing buttons like cancel/open/open directory/settings. The middle containing a table,w here you see an icon (arrow) : uploading or downloading, the filename, the size of the file, a small progress bar, percentage, time remaining, and speed. the bottom part would contain 'details' info. Whenever you select a file from the table, the bottom part gets filled with more details on the file, like who sent it, the full path to where it is saved, the filesize, the number of bytes transferred so far, if you're using the SB or if you're using a direct connection, etc... I think that's it. My main problem I have now, is finding a 'table' widget in Tk, I found 3 solutions, 1 using labels and grid :s the other drawing it all in a canvas, and the third being tktable (compiled extension) which seems powerful but when tested looked awful.. I would probably need to have 10 lines of -options before it has a nice/normal look to it. KKRT On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:38:15AM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN" > <amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO > > > >I didn't understand what you meant :p > > but the 'do not show this dialog anymore', I don't like.. I prefer the > > setting of show always, show background, > > never... > > and the hide/cancel.. you wouldn't 'hide' a download, in a download > > manager, you remove a download once > > finished, if you remove it while transfering it's a cancel. > > OK, maybe I was thinking faster then explaining. And I misunderstood you a > bit, too. > > I was thinking of a FTmanager as the one seen in FFox (don't ask me why) > > You can Hide it, but this doesn't imply cancelling, even though you're > actually right if your going to say this *is not* something *logical*, but > let me explain how I intended it: > > If you *hid* the FT manager you would have got *right then* an embedded > progbar in your CW; I don't know why but I answered as I understood there > were both an embedded progbar and a FT manager at the same time o.o > > Probably because I use this extension > https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/26 if you try it downloading > some big file you could see what I mean; it is quite cool. The d/l status > bar is shown only in your browser's current active window, and if you open > firefox's native d/l manger the status bar is hidden; if you close it (hide > it) then the progbars come back > > > The buttons should apply to the downloads, if you > > want to hide/close the download manager, you would simply close its tab > > like any other chat window... > > Ok, so the FTman would be in a tab. Don you think this would be an > inconsistency if you chose *not to use* tabs? > > If you want aMSN to be "spatial" then maybe you would expect the FTman to be > in another window (or maybe embedded, it wouldn't hurt the metaphor), if you > had tabs enabled then another tab for FTman... (as in Opera) IMO might still > confuse you a bit, but maybe less then if you had tabs disabled :/ > > HTH > > -- > NoWhereMan (e.v.) > -- http://www.nowhereland.it > -- http://flatpress.nowhereland.it > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Amsn-devel mailing list > Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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