Hello,

I've put together another example for the t-shirt if we go with the 1-side
design idea (added the website to the front design).  Would we want
http://amsn-project.net, www.amsn-project.net, or
http://www.amsn-project.net as the text shown? (personally i think
www.amsn-project.net looks cleaner)
http://www.amsn-project.net/~lee/mockups/amsn-tshirt2.png<http://www.amsn-project.net/%7Elee/mockups/amsn-tshirt2.png>

Lee

On Jan 26, 2008 4:59 AM, Tom Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Heya,
>
> I like the design a lot =] As far as 1 side vs 2, 2 is better for me,
> but 1 seems much more economical, and the idea is to promote aMSN so
> we'll want as many shirts as possible.
>
> If the shirt is only one sided, it may be worth putting
> http://amsn-project.net
>  somewhere on the front of the shirt...
>
> - Tom
>
> ps. I'm not sure how good the printer is, but the shadow (from the top
> row of 3) under the text may not be clear when it's printed..
>
> On 26 Jan 2008, at 08:33, Karel Demeyer wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ik like 'm very much.  But, the prices I put on the wiki are for
> > 1sided prints only now.  For 2 sides you can do the math, adding an
> > extra cliché cost (25 euro/total) and printing cost (0,40 euro/pc),
> > and adding taxes again.  I don't know it the back is really needed as
> > when you wear a bag on your back or some clothes overneith it, the
> > back is always covered .. on the other hand I already made a T-shirt
> > with publicity for  an event and we only had a print on the back for
> > it because when ppl want to read it an it's on your back it doesn't
> > make 'm look like theu're staring at you and have them feel at ease.
> >
> > So .. what do you think ? front only (my suggestion), back and front,
> > back only ?
> >
> > Karel.
> >
> > PS: if we decide upon this one, I'll need the desin in a
> > black-on-white scalable PDF (or adobe scalable grafics file format)
> >
> > 2008/1/26, Lee Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> Please take a look at the t-shirt design idea that I came up with
> >> and let me
> >> know which version you like best.  Feel free to leave other
> >> suggestions if
> >> you have any.
> >> http://www.amsn-project.net/~lee/mockups/amsn-tshirt.png<http://www.amsn-project.net/%7Elee/mockups/amsn-tshirt.png>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Lee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 25, 2008 12:57 AM, Youness Alaoui <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hey,
> >>> Great to see you!
> >>> Here's the current status :
> >> http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/FOSDEM_2008
> >>> There's a shirt design there, and a link to a design made by a
> >>> forumer..
> >> if you could read the details and take a look to see if you can
> >> come up
> >>> with something!! we need a graphics artist's skills on this one :)
> >>>
> >>> take care!
> >>>
> >>> KaKaRoTo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 12:55:00AM -0600, Lee Olson wrote:
> >>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry to respond so late on this, but if you still need some
> >>>> touch-ups
> >> done
> >>>> on the T-shirt design, please let me know.  I'll also be in the
> >>>> amsn
> >> channel
> >>>> as leeo if you would like to discuss it more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> Lee
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 21, 2008 1:36 AM, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi, I'll answer both your mails at once;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> about the colors: we can have as many colors as we want but it
> >>>>> weill
> >> cost
> >>>>> per color a "clich" and a print .. and then still, you'll have
> >>>>> only 2
> >>>>> colors, not all the combinations of this colors (this is not the
> >>>>> same
> >> like
> >>>>> when you print posters, where you pay for each color but if you
> >>>>> choose
> >> 3
> >>>>> good colors you can make about anything).  Which means when we
> >>>>> would
> >> have 2
> >>>>> colors it would still suck.  Therefor I think it's better to
> >>>>> make it
> >> only
> >>>>> one color .. you can have lighter shades of this color but this
> >>>>> won't
> >> make
> >>>>> the background really shine through (don't know if I'm
> >> understandable).
> >>>>> Ok, if we give out the T-shirts to a lot of ppl, we About the
> >> senshould'n
> >>>>> have the "crew" thing on it.  Let's just drop it.  I hope Lee or
> >>>>> Gus
> >> or Tom
> >>>>> or whoever can help us out as I'm not all that good with this
> >>>>> kind of
> >>>>> graphics (though I know some things about "spatial" design,
> >>>>> maybe you
> >> could
> >>>>> see this ;)).
> >>>>> For the prices .. I'll calculate 'm for 100 pcs and update the
> >>>>> wiki.
> >>>>> normally from 100 pcs and up we'll have a discount.  I got the
> >>>>> prices
> >> from
> >>>>> their website (which is ugly and Dutch-only:
> >>>>> http://www.proshirt.be/Prijslijst.htm).  I already
> >> had 3 shirts made there
> >>>>> in the last year and those ppl have always be great and it's the
> >> cheapest
> >>>>> solution in my surroundings (I did a research for this a year
> >>>>> ago and
> >>>>> checked out several firms, things could have changed by now but I
> >> don't
> >>>>> think it will be much).
> >>>>> For the T-shirt design, the available colors (for the shirt) are:
> >> white,
> >>>>> ash, black, navy, natural, sand, chocolat, gold, orange, red,
> >>>>> 3xblue,
> >> denim,
> >>>>> brick, burgundy, 2xgreen, grey, abricot, mistygreen
> >>>>> If you don't know what these are, the most of 'm are on wikipedia,
> >> though
> >>>>> I don't know what 3xblue and 2xgreen are ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I'll update the wiki, stay stuned!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Karel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PS: the design should be sort of finished in a week for the best
> >>>>> as,
> >> if
> >>>>> they wouldn't have our choice of shirt in stock anymore enough it
> >> would take
> >>>>> some weeks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2008/1/21, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> By the way, just saw the prices, and it's really good.. but the
> >>>>>> calculations should be done on a different amount.. 50 or maybe
> >> 100.. 25 is
> >>>>>> for sure
> >>>>>> too low, 50 is probably good, 100 is overkill but will allow us
> >>>>>> to
> >> give
> >>>>>> some at fosdem and bring a few to our girlfriends :p
> >>>>>> + The list of contributers in the wiki probably needs more
> >>>>>> names..
> >> if we
> >>>>>> add all the translators, we could easily blow up the 50 people
> >> point...
> >>>>>> In any case, for 100 shirts, it would make it 4.48 euros per
> >>>>>> shirt,
> >>>>>> which is also a very good price (unless they do an even better
> >>>>>> price
> >> for 100
> >>>>>> shirts.. if not, we'll take 101 and get a discount :p
> >>>>>> Karel, can you give us those numbers? Also maybe adding a link to
> >> where
> >>>>>> you got that info, the website or whatever (unless you went there
> >> and asked
> >>>>>> face to face).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> About the shirt design, now I see it with the blue.. and it's not
> >> that
> >>>>>> great... Maybe if it was on a real shirt design, to see how/
> >>>>>> where it
> >> would
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> placed, it would look better.. anyways, a bit of work is needed
> >> there
> >>>>>> and we should get someone to do it. I'll try to reach Lee or
> >>>>>> TomJ.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> KaKaRoTo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 04:41:23PM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yeah, sure, I gave my comments to vivia and I think she game
> >>>>>>> them
> >> to
> >>>>>> you..
> >>>>>>> mainly, the 'development CREW'.. the 'CREW' is too big... and we
> >> want
> >>>>>> to avoid specific stuff like that since it would be best to
> >>>>>> have one
> >> t shirt
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> give it to all (contributers, forumers, etc..), and we also
> >>>>>>> would
> >> like
> >>>>>> to give some of the shirts at FOSDEM to 'promote' amsn.
> >>>>>>> The logo is ok with me, but I undrstood that we can only have it
> >> in
> >>>>>> one color ? would have been nice to have the blue/green real
> >>>>>> logo as
> >> we
> >>>>>>> currently have it on aMSN.
> >>>>>>> Oh, and the sentence in the bottom, no locking in, no locking
> >> out...
> >>>>>> hum.. it takes hours of thinking to understand the meaning.. we
> >> should
> >>>>>> probably
> >>>>>>> find another tag line :)
> >>>>>>> That's it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> KaKaRoTo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:40:21AM +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On a slightly other note: could you please check the wiki page
> >> for
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> Tshirt-design ?  I got some comments from Vivia about the
> >>>>>>>> slogan
> >> and
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> logo.  About the logo: I'm not an svg artist.  If the logo
> >>>>>>>> isn't
> >>>>>> allright I
> >>>>>>>> hope Gus can fix it :).  For the slogan: give some ideas as
> >> quickly
> >>>>>> as you
> >>>>>>>> can.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Karel.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2008/1/20, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks all for answering so fast!!!
> >>>>>>>>> Anyways, just an update, Phil and I decided that we should
> >> fund
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> accomodation for everyone. So we'll choose a nice hotel near
> >> the
> >>>>>> conference
> >>>>>>>>> WITH
> >>>>>>>>> WIFI! :)
> >>>>>>>>> You guys will only have to worry about the transportation and
> >> not
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>> the additional cost of the hotel.
> >>>>>>>>> We can still fund some of you who don't have the money and
> >> want to
> >>>>>> come.
> >>>>>>>>> note: Funding is for developers ONLY.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And by the way, registration to the FOSDEM conference is free,
> >> so
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> don't need to add that as an extra cost.. just the price of
> >> the
> >>>>>> train/plane
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> get there + your food + gifts if any, etc.. the conference is
> >>>>>> free, the
> >>>>>>>>> hotel is free (paid by us) and we can pay some or all of the
> >>>>>> travel expense
> >>>>>>>>> (depending if you live in france or australia :p).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> KaKaRoTo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, Youness Alaoui
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>> We've just had a very exciting discution over IRC about the
> >>>>>> upcoming
> >>>>>>>>> FOSDEM conference in brussel. We are at least 6 aMSN
> >> developers
> >>>>>> who will be
> >>>>>>>>>> attending this conference (not initially intending to do so,
> >> but
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> order to meet up with other amsn devs, yes..), so this year's
> >>>>>> FOSDEM
> >>>>>>>>> conference
> >>>>>>>>>> will be an official/unofficial meeting place for aMSN
> >>>>>> developers! :)
> >>>>>>>>>> The conference will be at brussels on the 23th and 24th of
> >>>>>> february
> >>>>>>>>> (saturday and sunday), everyone is invited to come, and it
> >> would
> >>>>>> be great to
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> able to meet all of you guys!
> >>>>>>>>>> The aMSN Project can fund some of you if you don't have any
> >>>>>> money to go
> >>>>>>>>> there. Funding could be for the train/plane/hotel. You are
> >>>>>> encouraged to
> >>>>>>>>> fund
> >>>>>>>>>> yourself if you can, but if you can't, don't hesitate to
> >> ask.
> >>>>>> Funding
> >>>>>>>>> will be limited and only available to developers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've set up a wiki page that you can fill
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/FOSDEM_2008
> >>>>>>>>>> If your name does not appear in there, we'll consider you're
> >> not
> >>>>>> going.
> >>>>>>>>>> It might also be useful to have everyone's cell phone number
> >>>>>> (for those
> >>>>>>>>> attending), but for privacy reasons, do not put them on the
> >> wiki,
> >>>>>> so send me
> >>>>>>>>>> your phone numbers by mail, I'll build a phonebook and send
> >> a
> >>>>>> copy to
> >>>>>>>>> those that will be joining us, so we can more efficiently meet
> >> up
> >>>>>> and not
> >>>>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>> lost.
> >>>>>>>>>> Many details are still missing but hopefully we'll figure
> >> out
> >>>>>> everything
> >>>>>>>>> soon enough.
> >>>>>>>>>> For now, no 'limit date' to 'apply' is set, but sometimes
> >> soon
> >>>>>> we'll
> >>>>>>>>> have to close the deal and say that anyone not having his list
> >> in
> >>>>>> the wiki
> >>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>> not be considered as joining us (you can still come, but you
> >>>>>> might not
> >>>>>>>>> get a t-shirt, or you might have to find hotel/accomodations
> >> by
> >>>>>> yourself,
> >>>>>>>>>> etc...).
> >>>>>>>>>> Someone promoting himself as secretary/organizer/whatever
> >> would
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>> welcomed, I'm not a good organizer, so don't count on me for
> >>>>>> reserving
> >>>>>>>>>> flights/hotels so if someone can do it, that would be cool
> >> to
> >>>>>> have it
> >>>>>>>>> well organized.
> >>>>>>>>>> The conference is in 5 weeks, so start looking right now at
> >> your
> >>>>>> travel
> >>>>>>>>> possibilities!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> See you soon! :)
> >>>>>>>>>> KaKaRoTo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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