I will travel by car, so if needed I can help with moving the shirts

On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 12:52 +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> Youness,
> 
> Are you the only one coming from over the atlantic ? Ifso, this would
> mean you'll probalbly gonna have to take a lot of shirts with you when
> returning .. I hope it won't be a problem with the customs .. but
> also, you'll need to makje sure to have some space and weight to be
> used :).  I still have to find a plan to bring all the T's to brussels
> too as a hundred tees is some boxes full and I usually trvel by
> train.  
> 
> That's all when I am the one to take care of this.  If some other
> (from belgium, forum users ...) wants to help out, point 'm to me :)).
> Ifso we also have to find out how to pass me some money for when I'm
> gonna get 'm :)
> 
> back to studies now.
> 
> 2008/1/22, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>         Hi,
>         Check out the latest news post I put on
>         http://amsn-project.net (or
>         http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4716 ).
>         I hope you guys can all fill in your information in the wiki,
>         mainly the t-shirt size, so they can be ordered with the
>         proper amount for each size...
>         
>         Read the http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/FOSDEM_2008 page and
>         the http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/0.97:Gifts page.. as well
>         as
>         http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Gift_ideas
>         And please, participate (those not apply to all those
>         participating in this already).
>         
>         KaKaRoTo
>         
>         On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 11:45:23AM -0500, Youness Alaoui
>         wrote:
>         > Ok, thanks for the explanation!
>         > I usually like the navy more than the blue you chose. I know
>         you chose the same blue as the website, but i don't think it
>         looks too good on a shirt..
>         > navy is better I think.. less 'flashy'.
>         > About the colors, I understand. Having it one color would be
>         just fine if only we knew how to design it correctly for it to
>         show up nicely.
>         >
>         > I think collabora booked their accomodations today, so I'm
>         going to ask them about that and see where they'll be so we
>         can maybe join them if there's
>         > wifi around there.
>         >
>         > KaKaRoTo
>         >
>         >
>         > On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 08:36:34AM +0100, Karel Demeyer
>         wrote:
>         > > Hi, I'll answer both your mails at once;
>         > >
>         > > about the colors: we can have as many colors as we want
>         but it weill cost
>         > > per color a "clich" and a print .. and then still, you'll
>         have only 2
>         > > colors, not all the combinations of this colors (this is
>         not the same like
>         > > when you print posters, where you pay for each color but
>         if you choose 3
>         > > good colors you can make about anything).  Which means
>         when we would have 2
>         > > colors it would still suck.  Therefor I think it's better
>         to make it only
>         > > one color .. you can have lighter shades of this color but
>         this won't make
>         > > the background really shine through (don't know if I'm
>         understandable).
>         > > Ok, if we give out the T-shirts to a lot of ppl, we About
>         the senshould'n
>         > > have the "crew" thing on it.  Let's just drop it.  I hope
>         Lee or Gus or Tom
>         > > or whoever can help us out as I'm not all that good with
>         this kind of
>         > > graphics (though I know some things about "spatial"
>         design, maybe you could
>         > > see this ;)).
>         > > For the prices .. I'll calculate 'm for 100 pcs and update
>         the wiki.
>         > > normally from 100 pcs and up we'll have a discount.  I got
>         the prices from
>         > > their website (which is ugly and Dutch-only:
>         > > http://www.proshirt.be/Prijslijst.htm).  I already had 3
>         shirts made there
>         > > in the last year and those ppl have always be great and
>         it's the cheapest
>         > > solution in my surroundings (I did a research for this a
>         year ago and
>         > > checked out several firms, things could have changed by
>         now but I don't
>         > > think it will be much).
>         > > For the T-shirt design, the available colors (for the
>         shirt) are: white,
>         > > ash, black, navy, natural, sand, chocolat, gold, orange,
>         red, 3xblue, denim,
>         > > brick, burgundy, 2xgreen, grey, abricot, mistygreen
>         > > If you don't know what these are, the most of 'm are on
>         wikipedia, though I
>         > > don't know what 3xblue and 2xgreen are ...
>         > >
>         > > So I'll update the wiki, stay stuned!
>         > >
>         > > Karel.
>         > >
>         > > PS: the design should be sort of finished in a week for
>         the best as, if they
>         > > wouldn't have our choice of shirt in stock anymore enough
>         it would take some
>         > > weeks.
>         > >
>         > > 2008/1/21, Youness Alaoui
>         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>         > > >
>         > > > By the way, just saw the prices, and it's really good..
>         but the
>         > > > calculations should be done on a different amount.. 50
>         or maybe 100.. 25 is
>         > > > for sure
>         > > > too low, 50 is probably good, 100 is overkill but will
>         allow us to give
>         > > > some at fosdem and bring a few to our girlfriends :p
>         > > > + The list of contributers in the wiki probably needs
>         more names.. if we
>         > > > add all the translators, we could easily blow up the 50
>         people point...
>         > > > In any case, for 100 shirts, it would make it 4.48 euros
>         per shirt, which
>         > > > is also a very good price (unless they do an even better
>         price for 100
>         > > > shirts.. if not, we'll take 101 and get a discount :p
>         > > > Karel, can you give us those numbers? Also maybe adding
>         a link to where
>         > > > you got that info, the website or whatever (unless you
>         went there and asked
>         > > > face to face).
>         > > >
>         > > > About the shirt design, now I see it with the blue.. and
>         it's not that
>         > > > great... Maybe if it was on a real shirt design, to see
>         how/where it would
>         > > > be
>         > > > placed, it would look better.. anyways, a bit of work is
>         needed there and
>         > > > we should get someone to do it. I'll try to reach Lee or
>         TomJ.
>         > > >
>         > > > KaKaRoTo
>         > > >
>         > > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 04:41:23PM -0500, Youness Alaoui
>         wrote:
>         > > > > Yeah, sure, I gave my comments to vivia and I think
>         she game them to
>         > > > you..
>         > > > > mainly, the 'development CREW'.. the 'CREW' is too
>         big... and we want to
>         > > > avoid specific stuff like that since it would be best to
>         have one t shirt
>         > > > and
>         > > > > give it to all (contributers, forumers, etc..), and we
>         also would like
>         > > > to give some of the shirts at FOSDEM to 'promote' amsn.
>         > > > > The logo is ok with me, but I undrstood that we can
>         only have it in one
>         > > > color ? would have been nice to have the blue/green real
>         logo as we
>         > > > > currently have it on aMSN.
>         > > > > Oh, and the sentence in the bottom, no locking in, no
>         locking out...
>         > > > hum.. it takes hours of thinking to understand the
>         meaning.. we should
>         > > > probably
>         > > > > find another tag line :)
>         > > > > That's it.
>         > > > >
>         > > > >
>         > > > > KaKaRoTo
>         > > > >
>         > > > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:40:21AM +0100, Karel
>         Demeyer wrote:
>         > > > > > On a slightly other note: could you please check the
>         wiki page for the
>         > > > > > Tshirt-design ?  I got some comments from Vivia
>         about the slogan and
>         > > > the
>         > > > > > logo.  About the logo: I'm not an svg artist.  If
>         the logo isn't
>         > > > allright I
>         > > > > > hope Gus can fix it :).  For the slogan: give some
>         ideas as quickly as
>         > > > you
>         > > > > > can.
>         > > > > >
>         > > > > > Karel.
>         > > > > >
>         > > > > >
>         > > > > >
>         > > > > > 2008/1/20, Youness Alaoui
>         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>         > > > > > >
>         > > > > > > Thanks all for answering so fast!!!
>         > > > > > > Anyways, just an update, Phil and I decided that
>         we should fund the
>         > > > > > > accomodation for everyone. So we'll choose a nice
>         hotel near the
>         > > > conference
>         > > > > > > WITH
>         > > > > > > WIFI! :)
>         > > > > > > You guys will only have to worry about the
>         transportation and not
>         > > > about
>         > > > > > > the additional cost of the hotel.
>         > > > > > > We can still fund some of you who don't have the
>         money and want to
>         > > > come.
>         > > > > > > note: Funding is for developers ONLY.
>         > > > > > >
>         > > > > > > And by the way, registration to the FOSDEM
>         conference is free, so
>         > > > you
>         > > > > > > don't need to add that as an extra cost.. just the
>         price of the
>         > > > train/plane
>         > > > > > > to
>         > > > > > > get there + your food + gifts if any, etc.. the
>         conference is free,
>         > > > the
>         > > > > > > hotel is free (paid by us) and we can pay some or
>         all of the travel
>         > > > expense
>         > > > > > > (depending if you live in france or australia :p).
>         > > > > > >
>         > > > > > > KaKaRoTo
>         > > > > > >
>         > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 07:27:46PM -0500, Youness
>         Alaoui wrote:
>         > > > > > > > Hi all,
>         > > > > > > > We've just had a very exciting discution over
>         IRC about the
>         > > > upcoming
>         > > > > > > FOSDEM conference in brussel. We are at least 6
>         aMSN developers who
>         > > > will be
>         > > > > > > > attending this conference (not initially
>         intending to do so, but
>         > > > in
>         > > > > > > order to meet up with other amsn devs, yes..), so
>         this year's FOSDEM
>         > > > > > > conference
>         > > > > > > > will be an official/unofficial meeting place for
>         aMSN developers!
>         > > > :)
>         > > > > > > > The conference will be at brussels on the 23th
>         and 24th of
>         > > > february
>         > > > > > > (saturday and sunday), everyone is invited to
>         come, and it would be
>         > > > great to
>         > > > > > > be
>         > > > > > > > able to meet all of you guys!
>         > > > > > > > The aMSN Project can fund some of you if you
>         don't have any money
>         > > > to go
>         > > > > > > there. Funding could be for the train/plane/hotel.
>         You are
>         > > > encouraged to
>         > > > > > > fund
>         > > > > > > > yourself if you can, but if you can't, don't
>         hesitate to ask.
>         > > > Funding
>         > > > > > > will be limited and only available to developers.
>         > > > > > > >
>         > > > > > > > I've set up a wiki page that you can fill
>         > > > > > > http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/FOSDEM_2008
>         > > > > > > > If your name does not appear in there, we'll
>         consider you're not
>         > > > going.
>         > > > > > > > It might also be useful to have everyone's cell
>         phone number (for
>         > > > those
>         > > > > > > attending), but for privacy reasons, do not put
>         them on the wiki, so
>         > > > send me
>         > > > > > > > your phone numbers by mail, I'll build a
>         phonebook and send a copy
>         > > > to
>         > > > > > > those that will be joining us, so we can more
>         efficiently meet up
>         > > > and not
>         > > > > > > get
>         > > > > > > > lost.
>         > > > > > > > Many details are still missing but hopefully
>         we'll figure out
>         > > > everything
>         > > > > > > soon enough.
>         > > > > > > > For now, no 'limit date' to 'apply' is set, but
>         sometimes soon
>         > > > we'll
>         > > > > > > have to close the deal and say that anyone not
>         having his list in
>         > > > the wiki
>         > > > > > > will
>         > > > > > > > not be considered as joining us (you can still
>         come, but you might
>         > > > not
>         > > > > > > get a t-shirt, or you might have to find
>         hotel/accomodations by
>         > > > yourself,
>         > > > > > > > etc...).
>         > > > > > > > Someone promoting himself as
>         secretary/organizer/whatever would be
>         > > > > > > welcomed, I'm not a good organizer, so don't count
>         on me for
>         > > > reserving
>         > > > > > > > flights/hotels so if someone can do it, that
>         would be cool to have
>         > > > it
>         > > > > > > well organized.
>         > > > > > > > The conference is in 5 weeks, so start looking
>         right now at your
>         > > > travel
>         > > > > > > possibilities!
>         > > > > > > >
>         > > > > > > > See you soon! :)
>         > > > > > > > KaKaRoTo
>         > > > > > > >
>         > > > > > > >
>         > > > > > >
>         > > >
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