Sorry Kakaroto, but it's not the same thing to have an user option or a skin
option?
I'd prefer user option because a skin option it's a little bit hided... the
same is for underline it's a nice feature, but if an user want it he should
edit the xml skin file... and it's not simply for all users...

Btw skin opt or user opt i can do it... if there isn't any voluntary

a last thing we can have two opts...
1) hide all boxes
2) hide only user's boxes (and it's a great opt... i think... at least for
me :P )

*Square87*


2009/1/31 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>

> No, options is not a good idea... I think the user must have a fast skin,
> that's it... what makes it so slow is the fact that we have that many
> options to check everytime we're drawing...
>
> The most CPU consuming processes I think are :
>
> 1 - dealing with transparency.. so alpha blending in images should be
> avoided when possible
>
> 2 - resizing of images.. which means the box image for a group... same with
> the scrollbar and I think the topbar of the chat window.. those are the
> images being resized depending on the geometry of the win... in our case,
> the group box is the one causing an issue...
>
> Maybe have a skin option (not a user option) that says 'use_box' or
> something.. so if there is no box_* files, then amsn will not load the
> images, and resize a 0x0 image to XxY, etc...
>
> This should also fix the problem so many people have... they change the
> skin and all skins have that box_* thing even if it's not supposed to,
> simply because most of our skins are old and unmaintained and do not have
> the box_* files, so the ones from default skin are taken... So having the
> 'use_box' option set to false by default would be great!
>
> KaKaRoTo
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 3:35 AM, square87 <squar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know what is better. It depends from user... if he has many users
>> or not, if he likes an eye candy skin or a light skin... so personally i
>> don't know.
>>
>> But maybe a poll should be: do you want to put a skin wizard? do you want
>> put in amsn both skins and then the user chooses? For you what should be the
>> default skin?
>>
>> And... if you want a can try to put some options to customize the skin
>> (show only boxes around group name 0/1 | show boxes around group 0/1
>> etc...). Yes i know we already have so many opts :-\ but this is what i
>> think
>>
>> with love :)
>> *
>> Square87*
>>
>> 2009/1/30 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
>>
>>> We should either update the skin, or change the skin...
>>> I suggest a vote...
>>> Changing the skin (to the minimal skin) :
>>> pros :
>>> Much faster aMSN!!!
>>> Smaller binary size
>>>
>>> cons :
>>> Not the same eye candy..
>>> Users don't like stuff that change too much...
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't vote yet as I don't know...
>>> however, it might be interesting to see how aMSN performs
>>> with the saphire skin WITHOUT the box_* pixmaps.. I think
>>> the resizing of those pixmaps and the alpha blending is
>>> causing all our CPU problems...
>>> Also note that most users comments over the skin were that
>>> they didn't like the boxes around the groups, so I would
>>> suggest removing them from the next release...
>>>
>>> KaKaRoTo
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:31:09PM -0200, Gustavo A. Díaz wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Once I've posted in the ML about including the new version of Sapphire
>>> Skin
>>> > if you want.... Is almost finished, and I finishing to design the hole
>>> set
>>> > of smiles that integrates better with the skin style (since the current
>>> set
>>> > of smiles are not mine...). Examples: http://amsn.lnxteam.org/?p=76
>>> >
>>> > You can see how the skin looks (main Window):
>>> > http://amsn.lnxteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/amsn_sapphire25.png
>>> > Anything else to check, you can download the SVN: *svn://
>>> > svn.tuxfamily.org/svnroot/amsnskins/amsnskins/trunk/Sapphire/2.5/*
>>> >
>>> > Cheers.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2009/1/28 Vivia Nikolaidou <vi...@ee.auth.gr>
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > DONE:
>>> > > - N810: Bind menu button to show right click menu
>>> > >
>>> > > Not quite. Menu button called ::tk::FirstMenu which bugged so I
>>> substituted
>>> > > it with an empty proc, and made ctrl+click fire <<Button3>
>>> > > events if we're on maemo.
>>> > >
>>> > > 0.98 TODO:
>>> > > - Add missing pixmaps to minimal skin and make sure tab flickering
>>> > > is visible
>>> > > - Fix MSNP2P stuff that broke with WLM 2009
>>> > > - Finish VoIP UI
>>> > > - Small annoyance: when a CW gets opened because they nudge you, you
>>> don't
>>> > > see their DP
>>> > > - Apply patch from PEACEYALL's thread
>>> > > - Make ListChoose draw in a canvas
>>> > > - Make webcam work for BSD systems
>>> > >
>>> > >
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