Hi

so...

*about the Wrong Live Messanger Tabs*
I think it's a feature of wlm plus, and it shows tabs as amsn actually does
but it always shows the more and less tabs icons... I tried to do a
screenshot, but my windows works correctly (read: it crashes)

*about motivations*
We are lucky to have good developpers but I think that the actual system of
releasing tires developpers. I mean: many of answer for a problem is: "get
the svn". I think that we should release a version about every 3 months ( i
don't care about the name, it can be 0.98.x, 0.99RC1, 0.99svn1 or
whatever...)

Then i think that we should give some gift for very important
patches/plugins/skins (a lapel pin, a shirt or whatever... don't mind... but
a symbolic "thanks!") If aMSN did pay for the conference Holland (or
Belgium?) last year for some developperss, i think that we can pay a lapel
pin...

Think to Firefox... it gives 500dollars if you discover a security bug...
and you make some points to you if you contribute to the project or if your
"friends" download firefox through a your banner... and with poits you can
obtain a shirt, a rucksack, etc... I know that Mozilla respect to aMSN is
very rich... but just think about this system.

*about new topcw*
The important thing is that now every tab is a canvas, so we can add things
nicely (a dp before the nick, a status icon, emal, psm, an animated icons
that "say": New message and so disable the flirking, if tabs should have a
max width or not, etc...) we can add an icon on the right of tab frame with
much options so people can customize their own tabs!

*then another thing...*
if we want a new site (a multilanguage one) i can do it... i have some
experiences with joomla... . Wlm, and emesene has a multilanguage one...

That's all, i think...
sorry for bad English

*Square87*

2009/3/13 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>

> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 09:18:29AM +0100, square87 wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> Hi Triangle87!
>
> > I am writing a new topcw.
> > You can see the screeshot here http://www.pensierialquadrato.net/bg1.png
> > What are the differences between the old system and the new one?
> >
> > Now we can show smilyes in the tab, and if you are using colorednicks
> also
> > nick styles.
> cool, that's a good feature!
>
> > Then the topcw it's wlm-like but better, much modern and configurable.
> >
> What do you mean WLM-like? I don't think WLM even has tabs:p
> So what exactly did you mean by that ?
>
> > I want to know what do you think about it and if you agree i'll put it on
> > svn (it works... :P )
> >
>
> Well my opinion is this :
> 1 - I think that it's a bit of a waste of time... as you
> probably know, we're already pretty much short staffed, not
> a lot of developers have time to dedicate to aMSN and
> development isn't as active as before...
> I know that colored nicks are your "pet project" so you
> added support for contact list and for chat window and now
> topcw, and I can understand that and it's good to have
> something that motivates you!
> 2 - We are currently trying to get amsn 0.98 released so the
> TODO list and bugs should be fixed... that's I think our top
> priority... It also basically means that we want bugfixes
> and we don't want to add new features that might add bugs...
> 3 - if the feature is already done, then great! I don't mind
> it being added to SVN, considering how development is slow
> now, I think it will get tested enough before we release, so
> it's fine for now!
> 4 - The tabs don't look like buttons, they look like a
> simple image in there, I'd like to see some relief to the
> buttons.. (just look at the current tabs and try to
> replicate the look and feel of it).
> Keeping the same feature/look but just adding the capability
> to add smileys/colorednicks is important I think
> 5 - Don't take everything I said badly, I just feel that we
> have a list of high priority stuff that are *blockers*..
> that we can't make a release without finishing them, and the
> colored tabs was not one of them.. so if you could spend
> some free time on aMSN, it would have been helpful to do it
> on our TODO list rather than on something low priority.
> However, like I always say, aMSN is composed by a group of
> open source developers and we have no hierarchy and everyone
> is free, so you can in theory do whatever you want and whatever
> motivates you the most. Getting work done that motivates you
> is better than not doing anything!
> 6 - Make sure you test the code correctly with the different
> options that can make the code path change.. so if you have
> a [::config::getKey whatever] in the code, make sure to test
> the code with and without the 'whatever' option.. also try
> to test it with and without the colorednicks plugin.. most
> of the bugs we find are usually because developers tend to
> test a feature with their own options (like voip controls
> that i never tested with the option 'use a single dp
> frame'...)
>
> That's it, keep it up! :)
>
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > Square87
>
>
>
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