Ok, well my opinion is this : 1 - Ship only one skin.. adding more skins will just make our download file bigger, no need for that when users don't care.
2 - I don't like the minimal skin, I tried it, and it's dead ugly, I do not believe that it represents aMSN properly! It is also a "skin based on pidgin", but we are aMSN, we have our own identity and I do not beleive that we should have a default skin that is a copy of another software! 3 - The attractiveness in the minimal skin is that it's fast and small memory footprint (I guess)... but we only chose it as the 'fast skin' because of its name!!! It's called minimal, so we think it's the best we can get.. that's wrong. I believe that we should instead make our default skin use less cpu/memory! The CPU is mostly taken for constantly resizing the images in the background box of the groups in the CL, and in the chat window's top bar, etc.. we should make a skin that do not use these features and that's all we need! 4 - The screenshot of the newest saphire that vivia posted looks nice! no more box, which makes it quite nice and probably speeds up the CPU usage, however, I think the orange/green are way too flashy and they hurt the eyes.. I think the colors should have a lower tone... also, most users don't like the colors per status thingy, so we should maybe try to make it pretty much black with just small variations... I don't know if you understand what I mean... 5 - maemo will have its own .deb, so if you think a skin fits better for that platform, then make that skin the default! Same applies for anything else, ubuntu could use the 'human' skin as default, etc.. anyone is free to have specialized skins per arch/distro.. but the official default one should be something that we all like and that is universal and that we think represents aMSN clearly, and I believe the current Saphire is close to doing that! 6 - Taken from here : http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37140#37140 a few suggestions on what a user thinks about the current default (his views might not be everyone's views, but still interesting to consider) : [quote] 1- In the contact list, no boxes and plain white background would be better. 2- Top part shouldn't be white to differentiate it from the contact list. 3- Contacts take up too much space (make images smaller.) 4- No colored nicknames based on status (or make it optional). 5- Blue icons with shadows and simple gray layout don't go together, so either everything blue with shadows (like Windows Live Messenger) or everything simple (like the skin you mentioned). 6- Icons in chat window are too big and space between the text areas is too wide. 7- Messages in the chat window should begin a bit to the right (relative to 'Contact says:'). [/quote] I think about his comments that : - 1, 2, 6 are valid.. - 3 and 4, more or less : the CL images are a good size, but maybe just a liiiiiitle bit smaller would be better and, the coloring should be very subtle rather than very flashy - 5 I don't understand that stuff - 7 is unrelated to skin... That's my 0.03 CAD KaKaRoTo 2009/3/26 Mirko Hansen <baaa...@gmail.com> > Minimal skin as default skin? Well, I don't know if that's a good idea. > There are many people that rate software after their first look, so if they > see our great screenshots on the homepage, download it and then "only" see > aMSN with the minimal skin, it's not the best first impression. Sure they > can change the skin, but I there are so many people that kick away software > that doesn't fit their imaginations from the beginning. So I think we should > let Sapphire be the default skin if possible. Maybe we could decide > depending on the OS which skin is the default: > Memo, Windows < XP, and maybe other OSs that are run on systems with lower > resources for sure = minmal > others = Sapphire > > > 2009/3/26 Vivia Nikolaidou <vi...@ee.auth.gr> > >> >> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Boris "billiob" Faure wrote: >> >> > I fully agree : minimal by default + ship Sapphire. >> >> OK - which version of Sapphire? IIRC this is the most recent screenshot of >> the most recent version: >> http://amsn.lnxteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sapphire25-alt.png >> >> Should we make a forum poll? >> >> > About the aWLM2009 skin, we may not be able to ship it due to licensing >> > issues. >> >> IIRC there are no licensing issues as long as you redesign every icon from >> scratch instead of copying it - you can even GPL it. :) I'm not sure >> though, can anyone tell me for sure? >> >> > BTW, we should ask the author of the minimal skin to complete it a >> > little bit. >> >> Yes - and if he can't, we should complete it. >> >> Vivia >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Amsn-devel mailing list >> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Amsn-devel mailing list > Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel > >
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