I've read about the nicknames, but i thought you referred to buddy icons too was well.
2009/3/27 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> > No, I wasn't talking about the buddy icons, I was talking about the color > of the nicknames! Just the fact that the text gets colored depending on the > state! That's why I said black :p Yes the images should have less > saturation, but the text also should be more subtle... > > Also, WLM doesn't color the nicknames depending on the state. It actually > either shows a little square to represent the buddy (with green/available, > red/busy, orange/away or gray/offline) or it shows a thick frame around the > DP if you show the DP in the CL. > > > 2009/3/27 Gustavo A. Díaz <gustavo.d...@gmail.com> > > To 4# >> >> Yes, images has a little bit more of Saturation... agree that should have >> less. >> When deleted the box images speeds up way faster the skin, is why i did. >> About the state colors of the buddies, is like latest WLM does, and i >> think is pretty more simple than adding an extra icon next to the buddy to >> represent it (and since small images are hardly to represent in a clear >> way). So, that won't change. >> If i add more black colors in the skin, i should change many others >> images. So, i don't know. >> >> Cheers. >> >> 2009/3/26 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> >> >>> Ok, well my opinion is this : >>> >>> 1 - Ship only one skin.. adding more skins will just make our download >>> file bigger, no need for that when users don't care. >>> >>> 2 - I don't like the minimal skin, I tried it, and it's dead ugly, I do >>> not believe that it represents aMSN properly! It is also a "skin based on >>> pidgin", but we are aMSN, we have our own identity and I do not beleive that >>> we should have a default skin that is a copy of another software! >>> >>> 3 - The attractiveness in the minimal skin is that it's fast and small >>> memory footprint (I guess)... but we only chose it as the 'fast skin' >>> because of its name!!! It's called minimal, so we think it's the best we >>> can get.. that's wrong. I believe that we should instead make our default >>> skin use less cpu/memory! The CPU is mostly taken for constantly resizing >>> the images in the background box of the groups in the CL, and in the chat >>> window's top bar, etc.. we should make a skin that do not use these features >>> and that's all we need! >>> >>> 4 - The screenshot of the newest saphire that vivia posted looks nice! no >>> more box, which makes it quite nice and probably speeds up the CPU usage, >>> however, I think the orange/green are way too flashy and they hurt the >>> eyes.. I think the colors should have a lower tone... also, most users don't >>> like the colors per status thingy, so we should maybe try to make it pretty >>> much black with just small variations... I don't know if you understand what >>> I mean... >>> >>> 5 - maemo will have its own .deb, so if you think a skin fits better for >>> that platform, then make that skin the default! Same applies for anything >>> else, ubuntu could use the 'human' skin as default, etc.. anyone is free to >>> have specialized skins per arch/distro.. but the official default one should >>> be something that we all like and that is universal and that we think >>> represents aMSN clearly, and I believe the current Saphire is close to doing >>> that! >>> >>> 6 - Taken from here : >>> http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37140#37140 >>> >>> a few suggestions on what a user thinks about the current default (his >>> views might not be everyone's views, but still interesting to consider) : >>> >>> [quote] >>> >>> 1- In the contact list, no boxes and plain white background would be >>> better. >>> 2- Top part shouldn't be white to differentiate it from the contact >>> list. >>> 3- Contacts take up too much space (make images smaller.) >>> 4- No colored nicknames based on status (or make it optional). >>> 5- Blue icons with shadows and simple gray layout don't go together, so >>> either everything blue with shadows (like Windows Live Messenger) or >>> everything simple (like the skin you mentioned). >>> 6- Icons in chat window are too big and space between the text areas is >>> too wide. >>> 7- Messages in the chat window should begin a bit to the right (relative >>> to 'Contact says:'). >>> [/quote] >>> >>> I think about his comments that : >>> >>> - 1, 2, 6 are valid.. >>> >>> - 3 and 4, more or less : the CL images are a good size, but maybe just a >>> liiiiiitle bit smaller would be better and, the coloring should be very >>> subtle rather than very flashy >>> >>> - 5 I don't understand that stuff >>> >>> - 7 is unrelated to skin... >>> >>> That's my 0.03 CAD >>> >>> KaKaRoTo >>> >>> 2009/3/26 Mirko Hansen <baaa...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Minimal skin as default skin? Well, I don't know if that's a good idea. >>>> There are many people that rate software after their first look, so if they >>>> see our great screenshots on the homepage, download it and then "only" see >>>> aMSN with the minimal skin, it's not the best first impression. Sure they >>>> can change the skin, but I there are so many people that kick away software >>>> that doesn't fit their imaginations from the beginning. So I think we >>>> should >>>> let Sapphire be the default skin if possible. Maybe we could decide >>>> depending on the OS which skin is the default: >>>> Memo, Windows < XP, and maybe other OSs that are run on systems with >>>> lower resources for sure = minmal >>>> others = Sapphire >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/3/26 Vivia Nikolaidou <vi...@ee.auth.gr> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Boris "billiob" Faure wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > I fully agree : minimal by default + ship Sapphire. >>>>> >>>>> OK - which version of Sapphire? IIRC this is the most recent screenshot >>>>> of >>>>> the most recent version: >>>>> http://amsn.lnxteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sapphire25-alt.png >>>>> >>>>> Should we make a forum poll? >>>>> >>>>> > About the aWLM2009 skin, we may not be able to ship it due to >>>>> licensing >>>>> > issues. >>>>> >>>>> IIRC there are no licensing issues as long as you redesign every icon >>>>> from >>>>> scratch instead of copying it - you can even GPL it. :) I'm not sure >>>>> though, can anyone tell me for sure? >>>>> >>>>> > BTW, we should ask the author of the minimal skin to complete it a >>>>> > little bit. >>>>> >>>>> Yes - and if he can't, we should complete it. >>>>> >>>>> Vivia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Gustavo A. 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