No, I wasn't talking about the buddy icons, I was talking about the color of the nicknames! Just the fact that the text gets colored depending on the state! That's why I said black :p Yes the images should have less saturation, but the text also should be more subtle...
Also, WLM doesn't color the nicknames depending on the state. It actually either shows a little square to represent the buddy (with green/available, red/busy, orange/away or gray/offline) or it shows a thick frame around the DP if you show the DP in the CL. 2009/3/27 Gustavo A. Díaz <gustavo.d...@gmail.com> > To 4# > > Yes, images has a little bit more of Saturation... agree that should have > less. > When deleted the box images speeds up way faster the skin, is why i did. > About the state colors of the buddies, is like latest WLM does, and i think > is pretty more simple than adding an extra icon next to the buddy to > represent it (and since small images are hardly to represent in a clear > way). So, that won't change. > If i add more black colors in the skin, i should change many others images. > So, i don't know. > > Cheers. > > 2009/3/26 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> > >> Ok, well my opinion is this : >> >> 1 - Ship only one skin.. adding more skins will just make our download >> file bigger, no need for that when users don't care. >> >> 2 - I don't like the minimal skin, I tried it, and it's dead ugly, I do >> not believe that it represents aMSN properly! It is also a "skin based on >> pidgin", but we are aMSN, we have our own identity and I do not beleive that >> we should have a default skin that is a copy of another software! >> >> 3 - The attractiveness in the minimal skin is that it's fast and small >> memory footprint (I guess)... but we only chose it as the 'fast skin' >> because of its name!!! It's called minimal, so we think it's the best we >> can get.. that's wrong. I believe that we should instead make our default >> skin use less cpu/memory! The CPU is mostly taken for constantly resizing >> the images in the background box of the groups in the CL, and in the chat >> window's top bar, etc.. we should make a skin that do not use these features >> and that's all we need! >> >> 4 - The screenshot of the newest saphire that vivia posted looks nice! no >> more box, which makes it quite nice and probably speeds up the CPU usage, >> however, I think the orange/green are way too flashy and they hurt the >> eyes.. I think the colors should have a lower tone... also, most users don't >> like the colors per status thingy, so we should maybe try to make it pretty >> much black with just small variations... I don't know if you understand what >> I mean... >> >> 5 - maemo will have its own .deb, so if you think a skin fits better for >> that platform, then make that skin the default! Same applies for anything >> else, ubuntu could use the 'human' skin as default, etc.. anyone is free to >> have specialized skins per arch/distro.. but the official default one should >> be something that we all like and that is universal and that we think >> represents aMSN clearly, and I believe the current Saphire is close to doing >> that! >> >> 6 - Taken from here : >> http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37140#37140 >> >> a few suggestions on what a user thinks about the current default (his >> views might not be everyone's views, but still interesting to consider) : >> >> [quote] >> >> 1- In the contact list, no boxes and plain white background would be >> better. >> 2- Top part shouldn't be white to differentiate it from the contact list. >> 3- Contacts take up too much space (make images smaller.) >> 4- No colored nicknames based on status (or make it optional). >> 5- Blue icons with shadows and simple gray layout don't go together, so >> either everything blue with shadows (like Windows Live Messenger) or >> everything simple (like the skin you mentioned). >> 6- Icons in chat window are too big and space between the text areas is >> too wide. >> 7- Messages in the chat window should begin a bit to the right (relative >> to 'Contact says:'). >> [/quote] >> >> I think about his comments that : >> >> - 1, 2, 6 are valid.. >> >> - 3 and 4, more or less : the CL images are a good size, but maybe just a >> liiiiiitle bit smaller would be better and, the coloring should be very >> subtle rather than very flashy >> >> - 5 I don't understand that stuff >> >> - 7 is unrelated to skin... >> >> That's my 0.03 CAD >> >> KaKaRoTo >> >> 2009/3/26 Mirko Hansen <baaa...@gmail.com> >> >>> Minimal skin as default skin? Well, I don't know if that's a good idea. >>> There are many people that rate software after their first look, so if they >>> see our great screenshots on the homepage, download it and then "only" see >>> aMSN with the minimal skin, it's not the best first impression. Sure they >>> can change the skin, but I there are so many people that kick away software >>> that doesn't fit their imaginations from the beginning. So I think we should >>> let Sapphire be the default skin if possible. Maybe we could decide >>> depending on the OS which skin is the default: >>> Memo, Windows < XP, and maybe other OSs that are run on systems with >>> lower resources for sure = minmal >>> others = Sapphire >>> >>> >>> 2009/3/26 Vivia Nikolaidou <vi...@ee.auth.gr> >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Boris "billiob" Faure wrote: >>>> >>>> > I fully agree : minimal by default + ship Sapphire. >>>> >>>> OK - which version of Sapphire? IIRC this is the most recent screenshot >>>> of >>>> the most recent version: >>>> http://amsn.lnxteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sapphire25-alt.png >>>> >>>> Should we make a forum poll? >>>> >>>> > About the aWLM2009 skin, we may not be able to ship it due to >>>> licensing >>>> > issues. >>>> >>>> IIRC there are no licensing issues as long as you redesign every icon >>>> from >>>> scratch instead of copying it - you can even GPL it. :) I'm not sure >>>> though, can anyone tell me for sure? >>>> >>>> > BTW, we should ask the author of the minimal skin to complete it a >>>> > little bit. >>>> >>>> Yes - and if he can't, we should complete it. >>>> >>>> Vivia >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amsn-devel mailing list >> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >> >> > > > -- > Gustavo A. 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