2009/3/28 square87 <squar...@gmail.com> > Personally i think that we should remove the feature: color text depends on > the user's state. > About the buddy icons we should use colored icons... i don't care if they > are wlm2009-like or not.
As you can see in the screenshot, that is already done in latest development of Sapphire skin. > > > *Square87* > > > 2009/3/27 Gustavo A. Díaz <gustavo.d...@gmail.com> > >> I've read about the nicknames, but i thought you referred to buddy icons >> too was well. >> >> 2009/3/27 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> >> >> No, I wasn't talking about the buddy icons, I was talking about the color >>> of the nicknames! Just the fact that the text gets colored depending on the >>> state! That's why I said black :p Yes the images should have less >>> saturation, but the text also should be more subtle... >>> >>> Also, WLM doesn't color the nicknames depending on the state. It >>> actually either shows a little square to represent the buddy (with >>> green/available, red/busy, orange/away or gray/offline) or it shows a thick >>> frame around the DP if you show the DP in the CL. >>> >>> >>> 2009/3/27 Gustavo A. Díaz <gustavo.d...@gmail.com> >>> >>> To 4# >>>> >>>> Yes, images has a little bit more of Saturation... agree that should >>>> have less. >>>> When deleted the box images speeds up way faster the skin, is why i did. >>>> About the state colors of the buddies, is like latest WLM does, and i >>>> think is pretty more simple than adding an extra icon next to the buddy to >>>> represent it (and since small images are hardly to represent in a clear >>>> way). So, that won't change. >>>> If i add more black colors in the skin, i should change many others >>>> images. So, i don't know. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> 2009/3/26 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> >>>> >>>>> Ok, well my opinion is this : >>>>> >>>>> 1 - Ship only one skin.. adding more skins will just make our download >>>>> file bigger, no need for that when users don't care. >>>>> >>>>> 2 - I don't like the minimal skin, I tried it, and it's dead ugly, I do >>>>> not believe that it represents aMSN properly! It is also a "skin based on >>>>> pidgin", but we are aMSN, we have our own identity and I do not beleive >>>>> that >>>>> we should have a default skin that is a copy of another software! >>>>> >>>>> 3 - The attractiveness in the minimal skin is that it's fast and small >>>>> memory footprint (I guess)... but we only chose it as the 'fast skin' >>>>> because of its name!!! It's called minimal, so we think it's the best we >>>>> can get.. that's wrong. I believe that we should instead make our default >>>>> skin use less cpu/memory! The CPU is mostly taken for constantly resizing >>>>> the images in the background box of the groups in the CL, and in the chat >>>>> window's top bar, etc.. we should make a skin that do not use these >>>>> features >>>>> and that's all we need! >>>>> >>>>> 4 - The screenshot of the newest saphire that vivia posted looks nice! >>>>> no more box, which makes it quite nice and probably speeds up the CPU >>>>> usage, >>>>> however, I think the orange/green are way too flashy and they hurt the >>>>> eyes.. I think the colors should have a lower tone... also, most users >>>>> don't >>>>> like the colors per status thingy, so we should maybe try to make it >>>>> pretty >>>>> much black with just small variations... I don't know if you understand >>>>> what >>>>> I mean... >>>>> >>>>> 5 - maemo will have its own .deb, so if you think a skin fits better >>>>> for that platform, then make that skin the default! Same applies for >>>>> anything else, ubuntu could use the 'human' skin as default, etc.. anyone >>>>> is >>>>> free to have specialized skins per arch/distro.. but the official default >>>>> one should be something that we all like and that is universal and that we >>>>> think represents aMSN clearly, and I believe the current Saphire is close >>>>> to >>>>> doing that! >>>>> >>>>> 6 - Taken from here : >>>>> http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37140#37140 >>>>> >>>>> a few suggestions on what a user thinks about the current default (his >>>>> views might not be everyone's views, but still interesting to consider) : >>>>> >>>>> [quote] >>>>> >>>>> 1- In the contact list, no boxes and plain white background would be >>>>> better. >>>>> 2- Top part shouldn't be white to differentiate it from the contact >>>>> list. >>>>> 3- Contacts take up too much space (make images smaller.) >>>>> 4- No colored nicknames based on status (or make it optional). >>>>> 5- Blue icons with shadows and simple gray layout don't go together, so >>>>> either everything blue with shadows (like Windows Live Messenger) or >>>>> everything simple (like the skin you mentioned). >>>>> 6- Icons in chat window are too big and space between the text areas is >>>>> too wide. >>>>> 7- Messages in the chat window should begin a bit to the right >>>>> (relative to 'Contact says:'). >>>>> [/quote] >>>>> >>>>> I think about his comments that : >>>>> >>>>> - 1, 2, 6 are valid.. >>>>> >>>>> - 3 and 4, more or less : the CL images are a good size, but maybe just >>>>> a liiiiiitle bit smaller would be better and, the coloring should be very >>>>> subtle rather than very flashy >>>>> >>>>> - 5 I don't understand that stuff >>>>> >>>>> - 7 is unrelated to skin... >>>>> >>>>> That's my 0.03 CAD >>>>> >>>>> KaKaRoTo >>>>> >>>>> 2009/3/26 Mirko Hansen <baaa...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> Minimal skin as default skin? Well, I don't know if that's a good >>>>>> idea. There are many people that rate software after their first look, >>>>>> so if >>>>>> they see our great screenshots on the homepage, download it and then >>>>>> "only" >>>>>> see aMSN with the minimal skin, it's not the best first impression. Sure >>>>>> they can change the skin, but I there are so many people that kick away >>>>>> software that doesn't fit their imaginations from the beginning. So I >>>>>> think >>>>>> we should let Sapphire be the default skin if possible. Maybe we could >>>>>> decide depending on the OS which skin is the default: >>>>>> Memo, Windows < XP, and maybe other OSs that are run on systems with >>>>>> lower resources for sure = minmal >>>>>> others = Sapphire >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/3/26 Vivia Nikolaidou <vi...@ee.auth.gr> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Boris "billiob" Faure wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > I fully agree : minimal by default + ship Sapphire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK - which version of Sapphire? IIRC this is the most recent >>>>>>> screenshot of >>>>>>> the most recent version: >>>>>>> http://amsn.lnxteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sapphire25-alt.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should we make a forum poll? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > About the aWLM2009 skin, we may not be able to ship it due to >>>>>>> licensing >>>>>>> > issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IIRC there are no licensing issues as long as you redesign every icon >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> scratch instead of copying it - you can even GPL it. :) I'm not sure >>>>>>> though, can anyone tell me for sure? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > BTW, we should ask the author of the minimal skin to complete it a >>>>>>> > little bit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes - and if he can't, we should complete it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vivia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>>>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gustavo A. 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