Personally i think that we should remove the feature: color text depends on the user's state. About the buddy icons we should use colored icons... i don't care if they are wlm2009-like or not.
*Square87* 2009/3/27 Gustavo A. Díaz <gustavo.d...@gmail.com> > I've read about the nicknames, but i thought you referred to buddy icons > too was well. > > 2009/3/27 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> > > No, I wasn't talking about the buddy icons, I was talking about the color >> of the nicknames! Just the fact that the text gets colored depending on the >> state! That's why I said black :p Yes the images should have less >> saturation, but the text also should be more subtle... >> >> Also, WLM doesn't color the nicknames depending on the state. It actually >> either shows a little square to represent the buddy (with green/available, >> red/busy, orange/away or gray/offline) or it shows a thick frame around the >> DP if you show the DP in the CL. >> >> >> 2009/3/27 Gustavo A. Díaz <gustavo.d...@gmail.com> >> >> To 4# >>> >>> Yes, images has a little bit more of Saturation... agree that should have >>> less. >>> When deleted the box images speeds up way faster the skin, is why i did. >>> About the state colors of the buddies, is like latest WLM does, and i >>> think is pretty more simple than adding an extra icon next to the buddy to >>> represent it (and since small images are hardly to represent in a clear >>> way). So, that won't change. >>> If i add more black colors in the skin, i should change many others >>> images. So, i don't know. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> 2009/3/26 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> >>> >>>> Ok, well my opinion is this : >>>> >>>> 1 - Ship only one skin.. adding more skins will just make our download >>>> file bigger, no need for that when users don't care. >>>> >>>> 2 - I don't like the minimal skin, I tried it, and it's dead ugly, I do >>>> not believe that it represents aMSN properly! It is also a "skin based on >>>> pidgin", but we are aMSN, we have our own identity and I do not beleive >>>> that >>>> we should have a default skin that is a copy of another software! >>>> >>>> 3 - The attractiveness in the minimal skin is that it's fast and small >>>> memory footprint (I guess)... but we only chose it as the 'fast skin' >>>> because of its name!!! It's called minimal, so we think it's the best we >>>> can get.. that's wrong. I believe that we should instead make our default >>>> skin use less cpu/memory! The CPU is mostly taken for constantly resizing >>>> the images in the background box of the groups in the CL, and in the chat >>>> window's top bar, etc.. we should make a skin that do not use these >>>> features >>>> and that's all we need! >>>> >>>> 4 - The screenshot of the newest saphire that vivia posted looks nice! >>>> no more box, which makes it quite nice and probably speeds up the CPU >>>> usage, >>>> however, I think the orange/green are way too flashy and they hurt the >>>> eyes.. I think the colors should have a lower tone... also, most users >>>> don't >>>> like the colors per status thingy, so we should maybe try to make it pretty >>>> much black with just small variations... I don't know if you understand >>>> what >>>> I mean... >>>> >>>> 5 - maemo will have its own .deb, so if you think a skin fits better for >>>> that platform, then make that skin the default! Same applies for anything >>>> else, ubuntu could use the 'human' skin as default, etc.. anyone is free to >>>> have specialized skins per arch/distro.. but the official default one >>>> should >>>> be something that we all like and that is universal and that we think >>>> represents aMSN clearly, and I believe the current Saphire is close to >>>> doing >>>> that! >>>> >>>> 6 - Taken from here : >>>> http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37140#37140 >>>> >>>> a few suggestions on what a user thinks about the current default (his >>>> views might not be everyone's views, but still interesting to consider) : >>>> >>>> [quote] >>>> >>>> 1- In the contact list, no boxes and plain white background would be >>>> better. >>>> 2- Top part shouldn't be white to differentiate it from the contact >>>> list. >>>> 3- Contacts take up too much space (make images smaller.) >>>> 4- No colored nicknames based on status (or make it optional). >>>> 5- Blue icons with shadows and simple gray layout don't go together, so >>>> either everything blue with shadows (like Windows Live Messenger) or >>>> everything simple (like the skin you mentioned). >>>> 6- Icons in chat window are too big and space between the text areas is >>>> too wide. >>>> 7- Messages in the chat window should begin a bit to the right (relative >>>> to 'Contact says:'). >>>> [/quote] >>>> >>>> I think about his comments that : >>>> >>>> - 1, 2, 6 are valid.. >>>> >>>> - 3 and 4, more or less : the CL images are a good size, but maybe just >>>> a liiiiiitle bit smaller would be better and, the coloring should be very >>>> subtle rather than very flashy >>>> >>>> - 5 I don't understand that stuff >>>> >>>> - 7 is unrelated to skin... >>>> >>>> That's my 0.03 CAD >>>> >>>> KaKaRoTo >>>> >>>> 2009/3/26 Mirko Hansen <baaa...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> Minimal skin as default skin? Well, I don't know if that's a good idea. >>>>> There are many people that rate software after their first look, so if >>>>> they >>>>> see our great screenshots on the homepage, download it and then "only" see >>>>> aMSN with the minimal skin, it's not the best first impression. Sure they >>>>> can change the skin, but I there are so many people that kick away >>>>> software >>>>> that doesn't fit their imaginations from the beginning. So I think we >>>>> should >>>>> let Sapphire be the default skin if possible. Maybe we could decide >>>>> depending on the OS which skin is the default: >>>>> Memo, Windows < XP, and maybe other OSs that are run on systems with >>>>> lower resources for sure = minmal >>>>> others = Sapphire >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2009/3/26 Vivia Nikolaidou <vi...@ee.auth.gr> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Boris "billiob" Faure wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > I fully agree : minimal by default + ship Sapphire. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK - which version of Sapphire? IIRC this is the most recent >>>>>> screenshot of >>>>>> the most recent version: >>>>>> http://amsn.lnxteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sapphire25-alt.png >>>>>> >>>>>> Should we make a forum poll? >>>>>> >>>>>> > About the aWLM2009 skin, we may not be able to ship it due to >>>>>> licensing >>>>>> > issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> IIRC there are no licensing issues as long as you redesign every icon >>>>>> from >>>>>> scratch instead of copying it - you can even GPL it. :) I'm not sure >>>>>> though, can anyone tell me for sure? >>>>>> >>>>>> > BTW, we should ask the author of the minimal skin to complete it a >>>>>> > little bit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes - and if he can't, we should complete it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Vivia >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Amsn-devel mailing list >>>> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Gustavo A. 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