Well if a game on another platform has the same features in a open game development kit then point me to it so I move on to something else.
My point is that it does not already exist otherwise I would have found it. I think you and Chris are flame baiting retards. On Apr 29, 10:26 pm, Hielko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lol, therthel: are you really not seeing the point i'm - and others - > are trying to make? Creating something that already exists on other > platforms isn't really special, and certainly not a showcase of the > special compelling features of the android platform. Certainly if you > are creating basic 2d games that are available for every type of phone > in the market. If you want to stand out from the crowd, you will have > to inovate! > > On Apr 30, 5:01 am, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > BTW I like the games. It's a shame about not getting more games. I > > thought around 30 where available with free distribution. > > > To bad you couldn't make a deal with:http://www.zxspectrum.net/ > > > On Apr 29, 7:11 pm, Izard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Music is straightforward to add, but I could not find an API to > > > generate sound rather then play pre-recorded sounds. (Though I've not > > > tried very hard because of performance constraints, I wish Dalvik VM > > > with JIT will be released soon) > > > > The games I've included are > > > Elitehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game) (though there > > > was a debate between 2 authors on whether it is appropriate to make > > > freeware version ) > > > Laser Squadhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_SquadandLordsof > > > Chaoshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_Chaos_%28video_game%29 > > > turn based tactics released by author and publisher Jullian Gallop > > > (These 2 are perfect, I can enjoy playing them even now on emulator), > > > Gremlin titles: fighting simulator, platformer, > > > Highway Encounterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Encounter3d > > > arcade game, > > > Hobbithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_%281982_video_game%29, > > > "Bored of rings" text adventures, "Eagles Nest" maze, with atmosphere, > > > gameplay and objectives very similar to Wolfenstain but not 3d. > > > Then arkanoid and tetris clones from Gremlin and emu-scene > > > respectevely. > > > > I was limited by the constraint to include only games where I can > > > trace the authors and publishers had explicitly allowed to re- > > > distribute. There are dozens of great games out there where it's just > > > impossible to trace authors any more (hope latest legislation changes > > > currently in congress will make it legal in a year or two). For such > > > games I'll just allow user to d/l and play on his own risk. > > > > Alexander > > > > On Apr 30, 9:50 am, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yes my game has sound. I added music also, but the submission did not > > > > have it. > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by emulating the sound chip since the API > > > > already provides the MediaPlayer and other sound APIs. I used the > > > > MediaPlayer and a special mechanism to get around the 6-10 sound limit > > > > of the emulator. > > > > > On Apr 29, 4:26 pm, Izard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > As our submissions are pretty close, may I ask you if you did sound > > > > > effects in games? I was not able to support this in my entry at this > > > > > time (I can't do pre-loaded sounds and have to emulate target > > > > > platform's sound chip), so I wonder if you were able to support this. > > > > > > Alexander > > > > > On Apr 30, 6:01 am, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Why would a judge or user want something that does not work on the > > > > > > OMAP 3XXX? > > > > > > > Do you really think a great 3D game that is unplayable is better > > > > > > that > > > > > > a crappy 2D game that is fun? > > > > > > > Still you fail to meet the mark of: > > > > > > > "Name one game that has all the features I listed then you might > > > > > > have > > > > > > an argument. Name 10 games with the same features then you I will > > > > > > say > > > > > > your correct." > > > > > > > I showcase the most Android features for a game library. Since I am > > > > > > simply the only one with a game that uses them it doesn't matter > > > > > > that > > > > > > much how great they are as long as I have them and know one else > > > > > > does. > > > > > > > So, while the features are not earth shattering they do not exist in > > > > > > another library that will become open if I win. > > > > > > > If I described my poker hand using your analogy I have a four of a > > > > > > kind of 2's. How many hands really beat four of a kind I think it's > > > > > > better than 50 of 1766 ie 1/36? Is it really that unique of a hand. > > > > > > Well no, but having it when others don't is an automatic win. :) > > > > > > > Full House > > > > > > probability:http://www.durangobill.com/Poker_Probabilities_5_Cards.html > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 12:43 pm, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> tberthel, > > > > > > > > I think we are looking at this competition from a completely > > > > > > > opposite > > > > > > > viewpoint. You say you are making a highly compatible application > > > > > > > because most phones are old, and that will be the status quo for a > > > > > > > while. That is completely true, but the competition is forward > > > > > > > looking; they want applications that won't work on older > > > > > > > handsets! If > > > > > > > this were a generic mobile application developer challenge it > > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > another story... > > > > > > > > You also ask for a list of other applications that have all the > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > features yours does. As others have pointed out, this isn't about > > > > > > > quantity. From a statistical standpoint, it is very unlikely that > > > > > > > another application will have all the same features as yours, > > > > > > > just as > > > > > > > your application doesn't have all the same features as mine. More > > > > > > > features doesn't necessarily equate with a better application, > > > > > > > especially when the features are relatively generic like > > > > > > > "vibration" > > > > > > > and "progress bars". Your argument is like saying a worthless > > > > > > > pokerhand is special because the odds of you getting that hand > > > > > > > were 1 > > > > > > > in a million. To emphasize, I'm not saying your application is > > > > > > > at all > > > > > > > worthless, just that your argument that you have a high chance of > > > > > > > winning because no one else is using the same features as you is > > > > > > > flawed. > > > > > > > > But on that note, perhaps I'm not fully understanding how your > > > > > > > features are showcasing the Android platform. Would you mind > > > > > > > discussing why each features is specifically compelling? > > > > > > > > I guess we'll have the definitive answer next though! BTW, I'm > > > > > > > expecting bad news about our own team's results; with 1,788 > > > > > > > entries > > > > > > > the odds are stacked against all of us regardless of our quality. > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > the two of us lose I'll buy us both a beer to commiserate our > > > > > > > defeat - > > > > > > > if you win I expect that it will be on you! > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 10:01 am, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Name one game that has all the features I listed then you might > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > an argument. Name 10 games with the same features then you I > > > > > > > > will say > > > > > > > > your correct. > > > > > > > > > Until then your are full of it. > > > > > > > > > Both you and Chris need to look at the competition. They still > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > not done what I have listed yet. I am sure they will but they > > > > > > > > haven't > > > > > > > > yet until then you're spreading fud. > > > > > > > > > I don't know what Samsung your using, but it's not running > > > > > > > > Android so > > > > > > > > what is the point until someone has what I have now on Android. > > > > > > > > > When a better device/emulator comes out I will break out the > > > > > > > > multiplayer and 3D. My submission is the best your going to > > > > > > > > get on > > > > > > > > the OMAP 34XX which will be the majority of the phones for a > > > > > > > > while. > > > > > > > > Still the emulator is much faster than any phone I have had and > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > goes with most of the USA. So expecting every phone to have a > > > > > > > > Power VR > > > > > > > > and speed like your Samsung if it really is that powerful are > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > rare. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 7:06 am, Hielko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > tberthel: I understand that you think that you're application > > > > > > > > > is very > > > > > > > > > cool, and that you are defensive when someone else doesn't > > > > > > > > > (fully) > > > > > > > > > share your opinion, but I agree completely with Chris. You > > > > > > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > cool games, but it isn't really special. There just the same > > > > > > > > > type of > > > > > > > > > games I can run on my 2 year old simple Samsung phone. > > > > > > > > > Implementing > > > > > > > > > stuff like progress bars/dialogs, touch screen, vibrations, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lifecycle model etc etc is not really android specfic stuff. > > > > > > > > > Every > > > > > > > > > half decent Android application will have those features. > > > > > > > > > > I would be very suprised if your games, and similair games, > > > > > > > > > would make > > > > > > > > > it to the top 50: simple because there is little innovation. > > > > > > > > > Games > > > > > > > > > like Wifi Army or Parallel Kingdoms will have a far better > > > > > > > > > probability > > > > > > > > > to make it in the top 50. > > > > > > > > > > That said: I hope for you that the judges don't share my > > > > > > > > > opinion :) > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 11:25 am, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Every APK has the Manifest and the others are, "other > > > > > > > > > > Android-specific > > > > > > > > > > components" which includes my whole list. 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