Yes.  Actually reading is the way to go.  I stand corrected.

I did read somewhere that they could yank your app if they felt like
it, and that you required approval from apple to distribute your app,
which I assumed would make in house apps unreasonable.

Ah!!!  I remember!!!  My opinion was formed by the "random blog entry"
of Newsweek...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/135150

"... an iPhone can only be changed by Steve Jobs or soon, with the
software development kit, by programmers that he personally approves
that go through his iPhone apps store ..."

The author being interviewed said the following, pretending to be Steve Jobs ...

"OK, we're going to allow third-party apps, but you can't just hand an
app to someone, you have to put it through the iPhone store, and we
reserve the right to take a cut for every app. And if we don't like
the app, we can kill it."

So, to clarify, I can write and distribute what I want for the iphone?
 I can charge nothing and do an ad based thing?  I can build in house
apps, and have them on the iphones?  Apple can't pull the plug on my
app at their discretion?

It would seem your response and the guy being interviewed by newsweek
don't jive.  That guy is selling a book, so, you know.  Maybe he's
full of it.

Anybody else want to chime in?  Bueller?  Bueller?

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Pierre N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Android can stand up on his own, you don't need to try to put down the
>  iPhone to feel better about Android.
>  They will both coexist happily and the (possible) demise of one will
>  not make the other one better.
>  While I agree with what you said about Android, I feel the need to
>  correct a few wrong statements regarding your iPhone affirmations :
>
>
>  On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Kevin Galligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > I'll respond to this.  I think the platform itself is great.  Here's why.
>  >
>  > - The iphone is polished, but Apple is like a totalitarian state.  You
>  > can do whatever you want, as long as Steve is OK with it.  You want to
>  > have an app on the iPhone?  Better hope they like it.
>
>  True
>
>
>  > You also better
>  > hope they don't decide to compete with you.  Yank.  Your app is out of
>  > the store.
>
>  Don't think it's true, are you basing this statement on some real
>  event or even a random blog entry ?
>
>
>  > Also, I believe you can't just give it away.  YOu need to
>  > charge, and they take a cut.  You want to develope something open
>  > source and give it out?  Not happening (as far as I know. I could be
>  > wrong).
>
>  You are wrong, it's even clearly mentioned on the main iPhone SDK page :
>  http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/
>  "The iPhone Developer Program provides a complete and integrated
>  process for developing, debugging, and distributing your free,
>  commercial, or in-house applications for iPhone and iPod touch."
>
>
>  > You want to write some in-house app for a business or
>  > whatever?  I don't think you can do that.
>
>  Wrong again
>
>  I totally agree with everything else you've written
>
>  > [...]
>
>
> >
>  > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:01 AM, ConAim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >  This is a Google's fishing game; they throw out 50 pieces of baits and
>  > >  got overwhelm response on the number of fishes from around the world.
>  > >  I'm sure they will get some big whale and some big shark on this
>  > >  game.... lol.
>  > >
>  > >  The fact is they just want to throw out some money to get their
>  > >  Android platform out there. Yes, they success on trying to get some
>  > >  attention on us developers and the more developers involved the more
>  > >  chance that there will be a good hardware vendors that willing to
>  > >  partnering with them. But then ask yourself this question, do you
>  > >  think this Android is worth it? Look back at their SDK and see it for
>  > >  yourself:
>  > >
>  > >  - poor interface UI design, common admit it, look at iPhone interface
>  > >  and Android interface and do 1 to 1 compare.
>  > >  - UI designer???? Where is it???? I'm sick and tire of manually
>  > >  manipulate the xml layout.
>  > >  - so much bug, yup, some time I have to kill the adb.exe restart
>  > >  eclipse, -wipe, to be able to continue the development.
>  > >  - performing issues, yup, sometime it took more then 3+ minute for the
>  > >  emulator to initiate start.
>  > >
>  > >  Which all these issues, do you think they will successful in the
>  > >  mobile business? Ah… And where is the hardware? Don't tell me you will
>  > >  not lost any more cash building a hardware then have touch screen,
>  > >  accelerometer, for less than $300. Dream too much ain't good for you …
>  > >  
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  On May 4, 9:09 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >  > How can the application fail when there was a hit and a user
>  > >  > registration?
>  > >  > Come on.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > On 4 Μάϊος, 13:47, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > How do you know it wasn't simply the application that failed? Yes,
>  > >  > > there are 4 judges, why would you doubt this if they already 
> confirmed
>  > >  > > it. Honestly, sometimes is hard not to flame on you guys.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > On May 4, 5:44 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > Nice philology but i believe approx 1/10 apps has a client server
>  > >  > > > which is able to count the hits. Calculatos don't for example. Why
>  > >  > > > would someone complain? He doesn't know...
>  > >  > > > Google promised 4 judges.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > On 4 Μάϊος, 10:44, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > > aksonov,
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > > There were 1700+ entries. There are only a handful of people 
> that like
>  > >  > > > > you are complaining they didn't get a fair judging. 
> Unfortunately with
>  > >  > > > > such a large number of entries there will always be a small 
> number of
>  > >  > > > > people that will feel like they got cheated. Even if the 
> contest is as
>  > >  > > > > best as it can be. I'm guessing that the number of people that 
> feel
>  > >  > > > > they got cheated will increase after they find out they lost. 
> This
>  > >  > > > > will always be the case in any contest. I'm sorry for your pain 
> and
>  > >  > > > > hard work but I do not don't think that this contest should be 
> delayed
>  > >  > > > > just for a few people that feels they got cheated. Personally I 
> don't
>  > >  > > > > think I can handle another week of checking this forum every 5
>  > >  > > > > minutes.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > > On May 4, 3:34 am, aksonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > > > I don't understand something - top 100 app were selected (?!) 
> but I
>  > >  > > > > > still have ONE testing for my client/server app. Do we have 
> ONE judge
>  > >  > > > > > per application?? Or applications were selected without 
> looking into
>  > >  > > > > > them?? I didn't expect that Google could organize things in 
> such
>  > >  > > > > > way... Ogh, my belief in Google as "company for people" is 
> broken.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > > > If it happened not only with me, please post here.
>  > >  > > > > > I don't believe that it is OK for Google to get such negative 
> feedback
>  > >  > > > > > from many submitters, this way ADC become just lottery or 
> something
>  > >  > > > > > like this  (when just one judge could decide application is 
> good or
>  > >  > > > > > not)- Hide quoted text -
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > >
>  > >  > - Show quoted text -
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  >
>  > >
>
>  >
>

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