>Also, I believe you can't just give it away. YOu need to >charge, and they take a cut. Wrong, you can give it away.
On May 4, 11:23 am, "Kevin Galligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll respond to this. I think the platform itself is great. Here's why. > > - The iphone is polished, but Apple is like a totalitarian state. You > can do whatever you want, as long as Steve is OK with it. You want to > have an app on the iPhone? Better hope they like it. You also better > hope they don't decide to compete with you. Yank. Your app is out of > the store. Also, I believe you can't just give it away. YOu need to > charge, and they take a cut. You want to develope something open > source and give it out? Not happening (as far as I know. I could be > wrong). You want to write some in-house app for a business or > whatever? I don't think you can do that. The android platform is > nice in that it approaches the open source world, where the real > innovation happens. If the future of the internet and technology goes > down the apple route, we'll all be locked down again. That sucks. > > Plus, Objective C? Really? > > - So. Even if the platform is open, if it sucks, it sucks. Right? > Take a look around. JME is crap. Android is buggy, but that's > because its not release software yet. The look and feel is a little > rough, but I'd put a lot of money on that being well taken care of. > The difference betwen m3 and m5 were huge. To ding them a bit, the > docs for UI modification are terrible, and they didn't really finish > the refacing. Just try creating an app with the "Light" theme. > However, the UI is pretty good. Far better than JME. Not better than > the iPhone? OK. It'll be a lot better really soon. I do think > building UI's is pretty slow. There is no UI designer. True. I > would say a large percentage of UI design is done without a graphical > layout tool. As a career web guy, I'll tell you I never use a visual > tool. You know what's great about the open nature of the platform? > You can build that tool. If you did a decent job, I bet you'd get in > the top 50 for round 2. > > - "so much bug". Its not release level yet. Like all code, for all > time. Its got some bugs. > > - The emulator does take forever to start. Not sure why that is. > After its up, though, it runs pretty good. I have my asteroids clone > posted in one of the other forums. It runs fine. My app has > thousands of rows in the db, and its pretty responsive on the queries > and display. > > The summary. Android will come out and be on a lot of phones. There > will be a lot of innovation in that part of the phone world, which > will force the other guys to open up too. That's the beauty of this > particular chess move on Google's part. Android doesn't have to "take > over". It just has to open the door. IPhone is going to have a tough > time being a closed SDK platform when a major competitor isn't. > Right? Not sure if everybody remembers back when Apple had a large > part of the computing world and blew it by being closed off to outside > competition and innovation. Its the exact same thing they're doing > now. > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:01 AM, ConAim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is a Google's fishing game; they throw out 50 pieces of baits and > > got overwhelm response on the number of fishes from around the world. > > I'm sure they will get some big whale and some big shark on this > > game.... lol. > > > The fact is they just want to throw out some money to get their > > Android platform out there. Yes, they success on trying to get some > > attention on us developers and the more developers involved the more > > chance that there will be a good hardware vendors that willing to > > partnering with them. But then ask yourself this question, do you > > think this Android is worth it? Look back at their SDK and see it for > > yourself: > > > - poor interface UI design, common admit it, look at iPhone interface > > and Android interface and do 1 to 1 compare. > > - UI designer???? Where is it???? I'm sick and tire of manually > > manipulate the xml layout. > > - so much bug, yup, some time I have to kill the adb.exe restart > > eclipse, -wipe, to be able to continue the development. > > - performing issues, yup, sometime it took more then 3+ minute for the > > emulator to initiate start. > > > Which all these issues, do you think they will successful in the > > mobile business? Ah… And where is the hardware? Don't tell me you will > > not lost any more cash building a hardware then have touch screen, > > accelerometer, for less than $300. Dream too much ain't good for you … > > > > > On May 4, 9:09 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How can the application fail when there was a hit and a user > > > registration? > > > Come on. > > > > On 4 Μάϊος, 13:47, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > How do you know it wasn't simply the application that failed? Yes, > > > > there are 4 judges, why would you doubt this if they already confirmed > > > > it. Honestly, sometimes is hard not to flame on you guys. > > > > > On May 4, 5:44 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Nice philology but i believe approx 1/10 apps has a client server > > > > > which is able to count the hits. Calculatos don't for example. Why > > > > > would someone complain? He doesn't know... > > > > > Google promised 4 judges. > > > > > > On 4 Μάϊος, 10:44, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > aksonov, > > > > > > > There were 1700+ entries. There are only a handful of people that > > like > > > > > > you are complaining they didn't get a fair judging. Unfortunately > > with > > > > > > such a large number of entries there will always be a small number > > of > > > > > > people that will feel like they got cheated. Even if the contest > > is as > > > > > > best as it can be. I'm guessing that the number of people that feel > > > > > > they got cheated will increase after they find out they lost. This > > > > > > will always be the case in any contest. I'm sorry for your pain and > > > > > > hard work but I do not don't think that this contest should be > > delayed > > > > > > just for a few people that feels they got cheated. Personally I > > don't > > > > > > think I can handle another week of checking this forum every 5 > > > > > > minutes. > > > > > > > On May 4, 3:34 am, aksonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't understand something - top 100 app were selected (?!) > > but I > > > > > > > still have ONE testing for my client/server app. Do we have ONE > > judge > > > > > > > per application?? Or applications were selected without looking > > into > > > > > > > them?? I didn't expect that Google could organize things in such > > > > > > > way... Ogh, my belief in Google as "company for people" is > > broken. > > > > > > > > If it happened not only with me, please post here. > > > > > > > I don't believe that it is OK for Google to get such negative > > feedback > > > > > > > from many submitters, this way ADC become just lottery or > > something > > > > > > > like this (when just one judge could decide application is good > > or > > > > > > > not)- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Challenge" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
