Dude. Its a newsweek article. Its not like I just pulled it out of the air.
I assume by your response that you're pro-iPhone, which is fine. I asked because I figured people would have the info and would like to share it. Especially somebody who was, you know, pro-iPhone. You're not in that group of people, which is fine. I'd ask that you not criticize me asking questions, please ... As for "critic-idiot", I missed your interview in Newsweek. I'll look for it next time. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:48 PM, ConAim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, to clarify, I can write and distribute what I want for the > iphone? > I can charge nothing and do an ad based thing? I can build in house > apps, and have them on the iphones? Apple can't pull the plug on my > app at their discretion? > > Well, which all these question, why don't you answer it to youself. > Let just assume that you are CEO of Apple (well just assume). Will you > allow any unknown distributor/developer go use your app store to > distribute random virus/trozan? Will Android doing the same? What is > the best method to control these situation? > > As far as I know, there are certain rules that you need to follow, why > don't you go and gather some info. rather than look at some iPhone > crititic-idiot guys? > Do some more research before response, please... > > > > > On May 4, 2:18 pm, "Pierre N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't see where my response and Jonathan Zittrain statement don't > > jive, so clearly he is not full of it ! > > Yes, they can refuse your app (killing it is slightly overstated, but > > hey we all need sensational titles don't we ?) and I said so in my > > reply. > > But saying they can refuse your app because you are competing with > > them is not funded. There is a clear (I have to admit that it might > > not be complete) list of reasons why they would refuse to distribute > > your app (look at the keynote, porn, spyware/malware are some of them) > > and competing with them is not one of them. If you see a reference to > > this in the Newsweek article let me know, that's something worth > > blogging about ! > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Kevin Galligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes. Actually reading is the way to go. I stand corrected. > > > > > I did read somewhere that they could yank your app if they felt like > > > it, and that you required approval from apple to distribute your app, > > > which I assumed would make in house apps unreasonable. > > > > > Ah!!! I remember!!! My opinion was formed by the "random blog entry" > > > of Newsweek... > > > > >http://www.newsweek.com/id/135150 > > > > > "... an iPhone can only be changed by Steve Jobs or soon, with the > > > software development kit, by programmers that he personally approves > > > that go through his iPhone apps store ..." > > > > > The author being interviewed said the following, pretending to be Steve > Jobs ... > > > > > "OK, we're going to allow third-party apps, but you can't just hand an > > > app to someone, you have to put it through the iPhone store, and we > > > reserve the right to take a cut for every app. And if we don't like > > > the app, we can kill it." > > > > > So, to clarify, I can write and distribute what I want for the iphone? > > > I can charge nothing and do an ad based thing? I can build in house > > > apps, and have them on the iphones? Apple can't pull the plug on my > > > app at their discretion? > > > > > It would seem your response and the guy being interviewed by newsweek > > > don't jive. That guy is selling a book, so, you know. Maybe he's > > > full of it. > > > > > Anybody else want to chime in? Bueller? Bueller? > > > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Pierre N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Android can stand up on his own, you don't need to try to put down the > > >> iPhone to feel better about Android. > > >> They will both coexist happily and the (possible) demise of one will > > >> not make the other one better. > > >> While I agree with what you said about Android, I feel the need to > > >> correct a few wrong statements regarding your iPhone affirmations : > > > > > >> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Kevin Galligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > I'll respond to this. I think the platform itself is great. Here's > why. > > > > >> > - The iphone is polished, but Apple is like a totalitarian state. > You > > >> > can do whatever you want, as long as Steve is OK with it. You want > to > > >> > have an app on the iPhone? Better hope they like it. > > > > >> True > > > > >> > You also better > > >> > hope they don't decide to compete with you. Yank. Your app is out > of > > >> > the store. > > > > >> Don't think it's true, are you basing this statement on some real > > >> event or even a random blog entry ? > > > > >> > Also, I believe you can't just give it away. YOu need to > > >> > charge, and they take a cut. You want to develope something open > > >> > source and give it out? Not happening (as far as I know. I could be > > >> > wrong). > > > > >> You are wrong, it's even clearly mentioned on the main iPhone SDK page > : > > >> http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/ > > >> "The iPhone Developer Program provides a complete and integrated > > >> process for developing, debugging, and distributing your free, > > >> commercial, or in-house applications for iPhone and iPod touch." > > > > >> > You want to write some in-house app for a business or > > >> > whatever? I don't think you can do that. > > > > >> Wrong again > > > > >> I totally agree with everything else you've written > > > > >> > [...] > > > > > > >> > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:01 AM, ConAim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > This is a Google's fishing game; they throw out 50 pieces of > baits and > > >> > > got overwhelm response on the number of fishes from around the > world. > > >> > > I'm sure they will get some big whale and some big shark on this > > >> > > game.... lol. > > > > >> > > The fact is they just want to throw out some money to get their > > >> > > Android platform out there. Yes, they success on trying to get > some > > >> > > attention on us developers and the more developers involved the > more > > >> > > chance that there will be a good hardware vendors that willing to > > >> > > partnering with them. But then ask yourself this question, do you > > >> > > think this Android is worth it? Look back at their SDK and see it > for > > >> > > yourself: > > > > >> > > - poor interface UI design, common admit it, look at iPhone > interface > > >> > > and Android interface and do 1 to 1 compare. > > >> > > - UI designer???? Where is it???? I'm sick and tire of manually > > >> > > manipulate the xml layout. > > >> > > - so much bug, yup, some time I have to kill the adb.exe restart > > >> > > eclipse, -wipe, to be able to continue the development. > > >> > > - performing issues, yup, sometime it took more then 3+ minute > for the > > >> > > emulator to initiate start. > > > > >> > > Which all these issues, do you think they will successful in the > > >> > > mobile business? Ah… And where is the hardware? Don't tell me you > will > > >> > > not lost any more cash building a hardware then have touch screen, > > >> > > accelerometer, for less than $300. Dream too much ain't good for > you … > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On May 4, 9:09 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > How can the application fail when there was a hit and a user > > >> > > > registration? > > >> > > > Come on. > > > > >> > > > On 4 Μάϊος, 13:47, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > How do you know it wasn't simply the application that failed? > Yes, > > >> > > > > there are 4 judges, why would you doubt this if they already > confirmed > > >> > > > > it. Honestly, sometimes is hard not to flame on you guys. > > > > >> > > > > On May 4, 5:44 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > Nice philology but i believe approx 1/10 apps has a client > server > > >> > > > > > which is able to count the hits. Calculatos don't for > example. Why > > >> > > > > > would someone complain? He doesn't know... > > >> > > > > > Google promised 4 judges. > > > > >> > > > > > On 4 Μάϊος, 10:44, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > aksonov, > > > > >> > > > > > > There were 1700+ entries. There are only a handful of > people that like > > >> > > > > > > you are complaining they didn't get a fair judging. > Unfortunately with > > >> > > > > > > such a large number of entries there will always be a > small number of > > >> > > > > > > people that will feel like they got cheated. Even if the > contest is as > > >> > > > > > > best as it can be. I'm guessing that the number of people > that feel > > >> > > > > > > they got cheated will increase after they find out they > lost. This > > >> > > > > > > will always be the case in any contest. I'm sorry for > your pain and > > >> > > > > > > hard work but I do not don't think that this contest > should be delayed > > >> > > > > > > just for a few people that feels they got cheated. > Personally I don't > > >> > > > > > > think I can handle another week of checking this forum > every 5 > > >> > > > > > > minutes. > > > > >> > > > > > > On May 4, 3:34 am, aksonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > I don't understand something - top 100 app were > selected (?!) but I > > >> > > > > > > > still have ONE testing for my client/server app. Do we > have ONE judge > > >> > > > > > > > per application?? Or applications were selected without > looking into > > >> > > > > > > > them?? I didn't expect that Google could organize > things in such > > >> > > > > > > > way... Ogh, my belief in Google as "company for people" > is broken. > > > > >> > > > > > > > If it happened not only with me, please post here. > > >> > > > > > > > I don't believe that it is OK for Google to get such > negative feedback > > >> > > > > > > > from many submitters, this way ADC become just lottery > or something > > >> > > > > > > > like this (when just one judge could decide > application is good or > > >> > > > > > > > not)- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Challenge" group. 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