I don't see where my response and Jonathan Zittrain statement don't jive, so clearly he is not full of it ! Yes, they can refuse your app (killing it is slightly overstated, but hey we all need sensational titles don't we ?) and I said so in my reply. But saying they can refuse your app because you are competing with them is not funded. There is a clear (I have to admit that it might not be complete) list of reasons why they would refuse to distribute your app (look at the keynote, porn, spyware/malware are some of them) and competing with them is not one of them. If you see a reference to this in the Newsweek article let me know, that's something worth blogging about !
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Kevin Galligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. Actually reading is the way to go. I stand corrected. > > I did read somewhere that they could yank your app if they felt like > it, and that you required approval from apple to distribute your app, > which I assumed would make in house apps unreasonable. > > Ah!!! I remember!!! My opinion was formed by the "random blog entry" > of Newsweek... > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/135150 > > "... an iPhone can only be changed by Steve Jobs or soon, with the > software development kit, by programmers that he personally approves > that go through his iPhone apps store ..." > > The author being interviewed said the following, pretending to be Steve Jobs > ... > > "OK, we're going to allow third-party apps, but you can't just hand an > app to someone, you have to put it through the iPhone store, and we > reserve the right to take a cut for every app. And if we don't like > the app, we can kill it." > > So, to clarify, I can write and distribute what I want for the iphone? > I can charge nothing and do an ad based thing? I can build in house > apps, and have them on the iphones? Apple can't pull the plug on my > app at their discretion? > > It would seem your response and the guy being interviewed by newsweek > don't jive. That guy is selling a book, so, you know. Maybe he's > full of it. > > Anybody else want to chime in? Bueller? Bueller? > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Pierre N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Android can stand up on his own, you don't need to try to put down the >> iPhone to feel better about Android. >> They will both coexist happily and the (possible) demise of one will >> not make the other one better. >> While I agree with what you said about Android, I feel the need to >> correct a few wrong statements regarding your iPhone affirmations : >> >> >> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Kevin Galligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > I'll respond to this. I think the platform itself is great. Here's why. >> > >> > - The iphone is polished, but Apple is like a totalitarian state. You >> > can do whatever you want, as long as Steve is OK with it. You want to >> > have an app on the iPhone? Better hope they like it. >> >> True >> >> >> > You also better >> > hope they don't decide to compete with you. Yank. Your app is out of >> > the store. >> >> Don't think it's true, are you basing this statement on some real >> event or even a random blog entry ? >> >> >> > Also, I believe you can't just give it away. YOu need to >> > charge, and they take a cut. You want to develope something open >> > source and give it out? Not happening (as far as I know. I could be >> > wrong). >> >> You are wrong, it's even clearly mentioned on the main iPhone SDK page : >> http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/ >> "The iPhone Developer Program provides a complete and integrated >> process for developing, debugging, and distributing your free, >> commercial, or in-house applications for iPhone and iPod touch." >> >> >> > You want to write some in-house app for a business or >> > whatever? I don't think you can do that. >> >> Wrong again >> >> I totally agree with everything else you've written >> >> > [...] >> >> >> > >> > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:01 AM, ConAim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > This is a Google's fishing game; they throw out 50 pieces of baits and >> > > got overwhelm response on the number of fishes from around the world. >> > > I'm sure they will get some big whale and some big shark on this >> > > game.... lol. >> > > >> > > The fact is they just want to throw out some money to get their >> > > Android platform out there. Yes, they success on trying to get some >> > > attention on us developers and the more developers involved the more >> > > chance that there will be a good hardware vendors that willing to >> > > partnering with them. But then ask yourself this question, do you >> > > think this Android is worth it? Look back at their SDK and see it for >> > > yourself: >> > > >> > > - poor interface UI design, common admit it, look at iPhone interface >> > > and Android interface and do 1 to 1 compare. >> > > - UI designer???? Where is it???? I'm sick and tire of manually >> > > manipulate the xml layout. >> > > - so much bug, yup, some time I have to kill the adb.exe restart >> > > eclipse, -wipe, to be able to continue the development. >> > > - performing issues, yup, sometime it took more then 3+ minute for the >> > > emulator to initiate start. >> > > >> > > Which all these issues, do you think they will successful in the >> > > mobile business? Ah… And where is the hardware? Don't tell me you will >> > > not lost any more cash building a hardware then have touch screen, >> > > accelerometer, for less than $300. Dream too much ain't good for you … >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On May 4, 9:09 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > How can the application fail when there was a hit and a user >> > > > registration? >> > > > Come on. >> > > > >> > > > On 4 Μάϊος, 13:47, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > How do you know it wasn't simply the application that failed? Yes, >> > > > > there are 4 judges, why would you doubt this if they already >> confirmed >> > > > > it. Honestly, sometimes is hard not to flame on you guys. >> > > > >> > > > > On May 4, 5:44 am, dr123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > Nice philology but i believe approx 1/10 apps has a client server >> > > > > > which is able to count the hits. Calculatos don't for example. >> Why >> > > > > > would someone complain? He doesn't know... >> > > > > > Google promised 4 judges. >> > > > >> > > > > > On 4 Μάϊος, 10:44, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > > aksonov, >> > > > >> > > > > > > There were 1700+ entries. There are only a handful of people >> that like >> > > > > > > you are complaining they didn't get a fair judging. >> Unfortunately with >> > > > > > > such a large number of entries there will always be a small >> number of >> > > > > > > people that will feel like they got cheated. Even if the >> contest is as >> > > > > > > best as it can be. I'm guessing that the number of people that >> feel >> > > > > > > they got cheated will increase after they find out they lost. >> This >> > > > > > > will always be the case in any contest. I'm sorry for your >> pain and >> > > > > > > hard work but I do not don't think that this contest should be >> delayed >> > > > > > > just for a few people that feels they got cheated. Personally >> I don't >> > > > > > > think I can handle another week of checking this forum every 5 >> > > > > > > minutes. >> > > > >> > > > > > > On May 4, 3:34 am, aksonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I don't understand something - top 100 app were selected >> (?!) but I >> > > > > > > > still have ONE testing for my client/server app. Do we have >> ONE judge >> > > > > > > > per application?? Or applications were selected without >> looking into >> > > > > > > > them?? I didn't expect that Google could organize things in >> such >> > > > > > > > way... Ogh, my belief in Google as "company for people" is >> broken. >> > > > >> > > > > > > > If it happened not only with me, please post here. >> > > > > > > > I don't believe that it is OK for Google to get such >> negative feedback >> > > > > > > > from many submitters, this way ADC become just lottery or >> something >> > > > > > > > like this (when just one judge could decide application is >> good or >> > > > > > > > not)- Hide quoted text - >> > > > >> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > - Show quoted text - >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Challenge" group. 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