Yeah, I think it's all just earlier in the process than we'd like.  I
think that we might all agree that the key for success now is real
phones, running solid V1 Android OS, with more carriers signed up and
the start at a marketplace for innovative software.

If they have to cut back on the SDK iterations, or narrow their
support to a subset of us, that's probably for the best.  Face it, the
million-developers model is not really the key ingredient to success
here.

I do think that iPhone is making important steps.  The app store
details are sounding good, including the ability for enterprises to
control the distribution of their apps (compare BREW, where it's
impossible).

I also think that MobileMe might be the sleeper big news.  iPhone sync
(to a Mac) is fantastic.  Google *has the opportunity* to provide that
same sort of sync, OTA, to their apps in the cloud, and that could be
a game changer.  We haven't seen anything of it yet, just some talk
about Google Gears, and so on.  Well, Apple just stepped into that
position.  You can sync your mobile to your "desktop" apps, even if
you don't own your own desktop (emerging markets) or are on the road
(internet cafe).

Those cats are moving it along.

Also, we can look to Apple/iPhone soon for insight into the One Big
Question: "Once there is an open path to market for mobile
applications, can an independent software developer make any real
money?"  First indications from Apple WWDC is that "class A" apps/
games are going to sell for "less than expected."    Palm apps could
get distributed; are there any examples of wildly successful Palm
apps?  Are there any Palm developers driving Bentleys?

For those of us who can no longer afford to work solely for pizza and
glory, is this "open revolution," whichever company drives it, going
to result in real opportunities for developers?

I'll be happy to wait patiently for the next SDK broad release while
they try to get it right, for the Rest of Us.

JM

On Jun 11, 8:59 am, David Given <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danny wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > But yeah, it is time for a new SDK release.  It's a little tiresome
> > working with old documentation that still references the M3 build.
>
> I'd be very surprised to see anything any time soon, for one simple
> reason: m5 is full of bugs, but is almost usable. A newer, more stable
> release would be usable, just. If they released it, someone would
> instantly slap it on a phone and go into production, simply to cash in
> on the Google brand.
>
> And it would suck, because it's not finished.
>
> So rather than generate the huge amount of bad press that would cause, I
> think they'd be far more likely to generate a small amount of bad press
> instead by keeping things quiet until they have something that *really*
> works, and then making the announcement as a real device and SDK go into
> production. m3 and m5 have achieved their purpose; there are a lot of
> programmers out there who know enough about the OS to write apps on it,
> and they've sourced a reasonable number of private beta testers.
>
> --
> David Given
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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