You may not want to read this David, but in case others want to know. 
Things that push my button;

- Asking for money to do something which is available for free.

- Asking for money and not being up front about who you are.

- Asking for money and then letting people know it's a side-job that may 
not be your priority as it may risk your day job.

- Asking for money and they lying about your credentials (e.g. saying "I 
have been in software development for decades" when your 31, this would 
mean you started working as a coder when you were 11?).

oh, and finally;

- Making personal statements about someone without doing any research 
(e.g. "you have clearly never been an entrepreneur" to someone whose 
website says on it's first page they started a successful business two 
years ago that is still growing).

Regards,

Al.

AdroitAndroid wrote:
> Al, please accept my congratulations on your ability to use WhoIs and
> Google, and my condolences on the loss of your sense of propriety.  As
> I said before, I'm happy to discuss my background with anyone who
> expresses interest in the idea.  I never expected to have total
> anonymity  - although I do know ways to achieve that, were I certain
> that it was warranted.  I simply wasn't sure I wanted to advertise my
> involvement to the whole world as it might cause my clients to worry
> that I would be distracted from their projects.  Thank you for making
> that decision for me - you clearly know better than I do what's best
> for my business.
>
> I don't know how I have "hit" your "button"... II have done nothing to
> attack you and have only defended my idea... a simple idea to try to
> make things better for the individual Android developer. I admit that
> the $200 application fee was a mistake... but that's the only thing I
> think I've done wrong here, and yet you feel it necessary to publicly
> examine and pass judgment on my life.
>
> The funny thing is that you state: "There are over 2,000 members of
> the android-discuss list and over 10,000 on android-developers, access
> to all these people is free, you can team up with any number of them
> as you want, negotiate profit and work sharing agreements on a per-
> project basis, and choose the distribution methods you wish to use."
> This is really all I'm trying to do.  I just put some structure around
> it and proposed it in an open forum.
>
> I'm done discussing this with you, Mr. Sutton.  Please don't respond
> to this.
>
>
> If anyone else is interested in discussing it further, please let me
> know.
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 9:54 am, JP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On Oct 19, 8:50 am, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> JP,
>>
>>     
>>> I don't think he's as innocent as he's making out.
>>>       
>>> Firstly he claims that going public would risk his day job. The guy
>>> works for himself at the company he founded, so how, exactly, could that
>>> be true?
>>>       
>> I really question his judgment to take such a risk - he's got a really
>> good day job.
>>
>>     
>>> Finally, He's got my back up. I'll happily admit it. I get peeved at
>>> people who try to pull stunts like this and this guy has hit my button
>>> and pushed it further than it should be pushed, so I decided to call him
>>> out. I wanted to stop his "secret side-job society of top developers
>>> with a 200 dollar joining fee" nonsense which may sound appealing to
>>> some people, and make him stand up and be counted.
>>>       
>>> So yes, maybe it was unprofessional, and yes, it may have been a little
>>> unnesserary, but hopefully it will also kill off the idea you can post
>>> here asking people for money with shady ideas and expect to remain unknown.
>>>       
>> Well I guess we're all better off to put this to rest now.
>>
>> Funny, I've been down at Laguna Seca yesterday and the whole NSX crowd
>> was there. Should've cracked up a chat about that guy from Georgia
>> they pwned last Christmas holidays.
>>     
> >
>   


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Al Sutton

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