Thanks Al. I certainly have no complaints about andappstore.com, and was only thinking of the Android Market and the question how one can create a better user experience by telling users in advance about existing limitations.
> my concern would be that adding in a benchmark to every app is going to cause > some bloat due to duplicated code. Yes, that would not be very elegant. In my specific case the overhead of adding the built-in performance benchmark is effectively zero, because my app *is* its own benchmark with respect to real-time performance: I just needed to add a few lines to measure the time that it takes to synthesize one second of sound, and if that takes (much) longer than one second, the speed performance is too low and a warning message is shown on the screen. Regards On Dec 12, 6:06 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > blindfold wrote: > >> Seriously though, do you think AndAppStore, Marketplace, SlideME, etc. > >> should be looking to include something like CaffineMark > >> (http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/4189) in their > >> clients to warn users about performance issues? > > > Of course not: > > That's a relief. I started to have nightmares about the performance > noticeably degrading if the user had a lot of apps installed and/or running. > > > just add an extra edit field where the developer can > > state any "known issues" like "this app is still an alpha version; > > please report any problems such that we can try to fix them" or "this > > app still runs too slowly for practical use for lack of a JIT compiler > > or equivalent", or something similar about the currently absent JNI > > support on phones. Don't try to automate what the developer probably > > knows best. The single edit space of 325 characters on the Market is > > too tight for this without sacrificing a decent description that must > > already be very short. > > One of the problems is that users rarely read beyond the first line or > two. AndAppStore can take a fair amount more than 325 chars in the > description, but few developers use the extra space, and even if they > did I'm not sure that users would get to the end.> Secondly, in my app I have > my own built-in benchmark that checks > > whether speed performance is adequate for real-time use. No need to > > have an unrelated benchmark that will give irrelevant figures. > > It's good to hear you're on top of it, my concern would be that adding > in a benchmark to every app is going to cause some bloat due to > duplicated code. Maybe the OpenIntents guys could work with other > developers to produce a benchmark app where third party apps can say > "Whats the GPU performance?" or a similar type of query and make a > decision based on the result of the test. > > Al. > > > > > Regards > > > On Dec 12, 5:25 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I feel a Vista style performance rating coming on... .:) > > >> Seriously though, do you think AndAppStore, Marketplace, SlideME, etc. > >> should be looking to include something like CaffineMark > >> (http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/4189) in their > >> clients to warn users about performance issues? > > >> At the moment we (AndAppStore) are in the process of adding > >> functionality to allow developers to (optionally) say which devices an > >> app has been tested on. Do you think we should look to go further and > >> test each users device when the client is run and show required > >> performance levels? > > >> Al. > > >> blindfold wrote: > > >>> Yes. In part for that reason I have now added runtime JIT compiler > >>> detection to my app such that a message shows up indicating why speed > >>> performance is still (way too) low, but it would be good to have some > >>> more options up front on the Market to indicate to would-be users what > >>> they may expect performance-wise, and why, before they download and > >>> install. > > >>> Regards > > >>> On Dec 12, 4:33 pm, Ed <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Eric, > > >>>> I have also noticed the same issue. Some people are being so vile that > >>>> it is embarrassing to read. > > >>>> I like your ideas for the user rating features, but I would also add a > >>>> feature on the app side that could help people know what they are > >>>> getting before they respond with insults. I believe all apps in the > >>>> Market should be flagged in the apps list with particular identifiers: > >>>> e.g., Trial, Advertisements Included, Beta. This would also help to > >>>> tone down the negative feedback we have been seeing. > > >>>> --Ed > > >> -- > >> ====== > >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >> subsidiaries. > > -- > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. 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