Locale seems to be doing a lot of damage to Androids reputation; http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/fa79b405ecb5fb51
(read the whole thread, you'll see how one app can cause a lot of problems). Disconnect wrote: > Damaging applications? Examples please? > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Robert Barrett <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Whatever Shane. If the application is garbage then it deserves > negative > comments no matter how critical. There is a lot of garbage there and > people who pay for the G1 and take a risk downloading these sometimes > damaging applications have that right and they know what they are > talking about. > > Robert > > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 2:00 am, Shane Isbell wrote: > > I'm not allowed to upload my app to the Android Market, due to it's > > terms and conditions, so I haven't paid that much attention to the > > Android Market or to the comments. I recently browsed a number > of the > > comments on various applications, and was rather shocked by the > useless > > and rude comments left. It's pointless to even look at comments to > > determine whether an application is worth downloading. I'd say > it would > > be best if Google allowed developers to approve and/or delete > comments. > > > > Shane > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:44 AM, sam <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> Not to put in a shameless plug for my project, but I am working > on a > >> project to resolve some of the issues you mentioned. Android > could use > >> a standardized benchmark app similar to what PCMark and SysMark > >> provides -- I think some kind of performance metric / score > could be > >> used to communicate expectations & minimum system requirements, > though > >> enforcing that would be somewhat difficult. For anyone who's > >> interested, check out the DroidMark project: > >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/droidmark > >> > >> On Dec 12 2008, 9:06 am, Al Sutton <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> blindfold wrote: > >>> >> Seriously though, do you think AndAppStore, Marketplace, > SlideME, > >>> etc. > >>> >> should be looking to include something like CaffineMark > >>> >> (http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/4189) in > >>> their > >>> >> clients to warn users about performance issues? > >>> > >>> > Of course not: > >>> > >>> That's a relief. I started to have nightmares about the > performance > >>> noticeably degrading if the user had a lot of apps installed > and/or > >>> running. > >>> > >>> > just add an extra edit field where the developer can > >>> > state any "known issues" like "this app is still an alpha > version; > >>> > please report any problems such that we can try to fix them" or > >>> "this > >>> > app still runs too slowly for practical use for lack of a JIT > >>> compiler > >>> > or equivalent", or something similar about the currently > absent JNI > >>> > support on phones. Don't try to automate what the developer > probably > >>> > knows best. The single edit space of 325 characters on the > Market is > >>> > too tight for this without sacrificing a decent description > that > >>> must > >>> > already be very short. > >>> > >>> One of the problems is that users rarely read beyond the > first line or > >>> two. AndAppStore can take a fair amount more than 325 chars > in the > >>> description, but few developers use the extra space, and even > if they > >>> did I'm not sure that users would get to the end.> Secondly, > in my > >>> app I have my own built-in benchmark that checks > >>> > whether speed performance is adequate for real-time use. No > need to > >>> > have an unrelated benchmark that will give irrelevant figures. > >>> > >>> It's good to hear you're on top of it, my concern would be > that adding > >>> in a benchmark to every app is going to cause some bloat due to > >>> duplicated code. Maybe the OpenIntents guys could work with other > >>> developers to produce a benchmark app where third party apps > can say > >>> "Whats the GPU performance?" or a similar type of query and > make a > >>> decision based on the result of the test. > >>> > >>> Al. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Regards > >>> > >>> > On Dec 12, 5:25 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> >> I feel a Vista style performance rating coming on... .:) > >>> > >>> >> Seriously though, do you think AndAppStore, Marketplace, > SlideME, > >>> etc. > >>> >> should be looking to include something like CaffineMark > >>> >> (http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/4189) in > >>> their > >>> >> clients to warn users about performance issues? > >>> > >>> >> At the moment we (AndAppStore) are in the process of adding > >>> >> functionality to allow developers to (optionally) say which > >>> devices an > >>> >> app has been tested on. Do you think we should look to go > further > >>> and > >>> >> test each users device when the client is run and show > required > >>> >> performance levels? > >>> > >>> >> Al. > >>> > >>> >> blindfold wrote: > >>> > >>> >>> Yes. In part for that reason I have now added runtime JIT > compiler > >>> >>> detection to my app such that a message shows up > indicating why > >>> speed > >>> >>> performance is still (way too) low, but it would be good > to have > >>> some > >>> >>> more options up front on the Market to indicate to would-be > >>> users what > >>> >>> they may expect performance-wise, and why, before they > download > >>> and > >>> >>> install. > >>> > >>> >>> Regards > >>> > >>> >>> On Dec 12, 4:33 pm, Ed <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> >>>> Eric, > >>> > >>> >>>> I have also noticed the same issue. Some people are being so > >>> vile that > >>> >>>> it is embarrassing to read. > >>> > >>> >>>> I like your ideas for the user rating features, but I would > >>> also add a > >>> >>>> feature on the app side that could help people know what > they are > >>> >>>> getting before they respond with insults. I believe all > apps in > >>> the > >>> >>>> Market should be flagged in the apps list with particular > >>> identifiers: > >>> >>>> e.g., Trial, Advertisements Included, Beta. This would also > >>> help to > >> > >>> >>>> tone down thenegativefeedback we have been seeing. > >> > >>> > >>> >>>> --Ed > >>> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> ====== > >>> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales > with the > >>> >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp > House, > >>> >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > >>> > >>> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author > and not > >>> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's > associates, or > >>> it's > >>> >> subsidiaries. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ====== > >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > >>> > >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, > or it's > >>> subsidiaries. > > > > 2 Corinthians 13:14 > > The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and > the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen. > > Love in Christ, > Robert > > > > > > -- ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
