Damaging applications? Examples please? On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Robert Barrett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Whatever Shane. If the application is garbage then it deserves negative > comments no matter how critical. There is a lot of garbage there and > people who pay for the G1 and take a risk downloading these sometimes > damaging applications have that right and they know what they are > talking about. > > Robert > > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 2:00 am, Shane Isbell wrote: > > I'm not allowed to upload my app to the Android Market, due to it's > > terms and conditions, so I haven't paid that much attention to the > > Android Market or to the comments. I recently browsed a number of the > > comments on various applications, and was rather shocked by the useless > > and rude comments left. It's pointless to even look at comments to > > determine whether an application is worth downloading. I'd say it would > > be best if Google allowed developers to approve and/or delete comments. > > > > Shane > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:44 AM, sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Not to put in a shameless plug for my project, but I am working on a > >> project to resolve some of the issues you mentioned. Android could use > >> a standardized benchmark app similar to what PCMark and SysMark > >> provides -- I think some kind of performance metric / score could be > >> used to communicate expectations & minimum system requirements, though > >> enforcing that would be somewhat difficult. For anyone who's > >> interested, check out the DroidMark project: > >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/droidmark > >> > >> On Dec 12 2008, 9:06 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> blindfold wrote: > >>> >> Seriously though, do you think AndAppStore, Marketplace, SlideME, > >>> etc. > >>> >> should be looking to include something like CaffineMark > >>> >> (http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/4189) in > >>> their > >>> >> clients to warn users about performance issues? > >>> > >>> > Of course not: > >>> > >>> That's a relief. I started to have nightmares about the performance > >>> noticeably degrading if the user had a lot of apps installed and/or > >>> running. > >>> > >>> > just add an extra edit field where the developer can > >>> > state any "known issues" like "this app is still an alpha version; > >>> > please report any problems such that we can try to fix them" or > >>> "this > >>> > app still runs too slowly for practical use for lack of a JIT > >>> compiler > >>> > or equivalent", or something similar about the currently absent JNI > >>> > support on phones. Don't try to automate what the developer probably > >>> > knows best. The single edit space of 325 characters on the Market is > >>> > too tight for this without sacrificing a decent description that > >>> must > >>> > already be very short. > >>> > >>> One of the problems is that users rarely read beyond the first line or > >>> two. AndAppStore can take a fair amount more than 325 chars in the > >>> description, but few developers use the extra space, and even if they > >>> did I'm not sure that users would get to the end.> Secondly, in my > >>> app I have my own built-in benchmark that checks > >>> > whether speed performance is adequate for real-time use. No need to > >>> > have an unrelated benchmark that will give irrelevant figures. > >>> > >>> It's good to hear you're on top of it, my concern would be that adding > >>> in a benchmark to every app is going to cause some bloat due to > >>> duplicated code. Maybe the OpenIntents guys could work with other > >>> developers to produce a benchmark app where third party apps can say > >>> "Whats the GPU performance?" or a similar type of query and make a > >>> decision based on the result of the test. > >>> > >>> Al. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Regards > >>> > >>> > On Dec 12, 5:25 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> >> I feel a Vista style performance rating coming on... .:) > >>> > >>> >> Seriously though, do you think AndAppStore, Marketplace, SlideME, > >>> etc. > >>> >> should be looking to include something like CaffineMark > >>> >> (http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/4189) in > >>> their > >>> >> clients to warn users about performance issues? > >>> > >>> >> At the moment we (AndAppStore) are in the process of adding > >>> >> functionality to allow developers to (optionally) say which > >>> devices an > >>> >> app has been tested on. Do you think we should look to go further > >>> and > >>> >> test each users device when the client is run and show required > >>> >> performance levels? > >>> > >>> >> Al. > >>> > >>> >> blindfold wrote: > >>> > >>> >>> Yes. In part for that reason I have now added runtime JIT compiler > >>> >>> detection to my app such that a message shows up indicating why > >>> speed > >>> >>> performance is still (way too) low, but it would be good to have > >>> some > >>> >>> more options up front on the Market to indicate to would-be > >>> users what > >>> >>> they may expect performance-wise, and why, before they download > >>> and > >>> >>> install. > >>> > >>> >>> Regards > >>> > >>> >>> On Dec 12, 4:33 pm, Ed <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> >>>> Eric, > >>> > >>> >>>> I have also noticed the same issue. Some people are being so > >>> vile that > >>> >>>> it is embarrassing to read. > >>> > >>> >>>> I like your ideas for the user rating features, but I would > >>> also add a > >>> >>>> feature on the app side that could help people know what they are > >>> >>>> getting before they respond with insults. I believe all apps in > >>> the > >>> >>>> Market should be flagged in the apps list with particular > >>> identifiers: > >>> >>>> e.g., Trial, Advertisements Included, Beta. This would also > >>> help to > >> > >>> >>>> tone down thenegativefeedback we have been seeing. > >> > >>> > >>> >>>> --Ed > >>> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> ====== > >>> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >>> >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >>> >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > >>> > >>> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >>> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or > >>> it's > >>> >> subsidiaries. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ====== > >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > >>> > >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >>> subsidiaries. > > > > 2 Corinthians 13:14 > > The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and > the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. 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