Vincent, The answers are;
1) An ADP1 allows you to easily flash the 'phone with custom firmware and does not come with some of the Google apps (Market, etc.). An unlocked G1 can be reflashed with some work, but comes with a T-Mobile compiled firmware with all the Google apps relevant for the region (e.g. you don't get IM & the Amazon MP3 store in the UK). 2) Everyone wants devs to have dev 'phones, but devs don't necessarily want a dev 'phone which does not reflect their users experience. 3) I hope it isn't, but I try to avoid definitive statements about what the long term future holds, and as your asking the questions now what is relevant is the current market. Al. Vincent Wu wrote: > Al, > > No, I read that message and paid attention. That is a valid point. > However, it does not change any of my fundamental ideas of doing this > whole thing. Without disclosing the full details to everyone, I want > to raise three points for you and others to think about: > > 1. What is the difference between ADP1 and a unlocked G1 you can get > from ebay? How much do you want to pay for that difference? > > 2. In the current eco system, which party does not want developers > have dev phones? Do you actually think you can get dev version of all > Android phones? Let me go one step further: google wants to build the > platform popularity for their long term strategic goals (world > domination, and a lot of $$$). HTC like every phone maker wants to > sell more phones. Then who is applying pressure to both of them not to > provide more and more cheap dev phones? As a developer, do you want to > remove that limitation? > > 3. Do you honest believe it will always be one-man shop to build $1 > software on phones forever? What is the phone hardware look like in > 2007, 2008, and 2009? can you imagine what they will be in 2015? > > > On Feb 18, 6:30 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Vincent, >> >> I think you're missing a key point which has already been raised; >> >> - Developing on a custom 'phone can not give users the an accurate >> reflection of the platform that users will be on. >> >> Yes, there may be 100s' of Android devices in the future, and yes there >> may be 10 or so by the end of the year, but, right now, the market is >> limited, so buying into a hardware platform which will most likely offer >> different a processing characteristics, graphics performance, etc., just >> does not make sense. This is most probably the main reason why the ADP1 >> looks so like the G1 and the G2 is so similar to both of them. >> >> I hope you take this in the spirit in which it's intended and it helps >> you understand where the negativity is coming from. >> >> Regards, >> >> Al.http://andappstore.com/ >> >> >> >> Vincent Wu wrote: >> >>> If you do not want to share some risk, you will never get a custom >>> build dev phone. No one else will be willing to go through this much >>> trouble to build a small batch customized phone just for developers. >>> Am I the only one believing by end of 2009 there will be too many >>> models on the market to develop for; and developers need a cheap >>> reliable generic device for every programmer and QA? A device that you >>> can burn in different images of your own? >>> >>> Did I ask any one for money? I am asking for developer's preferences >>> now to build the dev phone first. If you don't like a dev phone, fine; >>> but I am not naive enough to believe people like Mike Quinn are >>> willing to pay a dime. Good lesson for me, maybe people like you will >>> buy the phone then call the credit card company to dispute the charge. >>> Why am I causing myself this much risk by working for this group of >>> virtual friends? >>> >>> Now you guys enjoy your overpriced ADP1, watch the devices popping up, >>> dream about google offering ADPn for each new device, and have a nice >>> day! >>> >> -- >> ====== >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> subsidiaries. >> > > > -- ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
