Al, I do not know. If we can figure out some way to do support I am happy to organize it. I am sure the manufacture wants to sell more phones and if we are a sizable market (say 1000+) I will have more power to tell them what to do.
The key here is "customizable". I am trying to find the best point for a dev phone for my own use and at the same time share with you all. I am not interested in developing this into a consumer phone. If you are intersted in that we can talk; but I am not going to be the person do it. On Feb 17, 11:37 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > You need to convince people it's worth saying yes. > > It's impossible to say you really will buy something unless you know > what it is in a bit more detail. If you're offering a phone similar to > the HTC Magic there maybe interest, if it's similar to the Kogan Agora > then given Kogan dropped that device you're unlikely to see any interest. > > There is also the issue of support. If it's a custom run of 250 devices > and they're all taken what happens if someone gets one thats DOA?, What > happens if the device developers a fault after a month or two? will > replacements be available? will firmware upgrades be possible if the > device uses custom hardware which is not supported by the main GIT > repository version of Android? > > At the moment you've got to convince people that what you're offering is > more attractive than the ADP1, G1, the FreeRunner running Koolus > distribution, or the HTC Magic from Vodafone, and from the responses > you're getting I'd say you're not succeding. > > Al. > > > > Imaging Luminary, LLC wrote: > > Convincing for what? > > > I am not asking you to pay $$$. I just want to see if I can get enough > > interests for a large order of 250+ sets. If there is any further > > risk, it is me, not you, who will handle the risk. The phone must be > > good for developers/testers otherwise I won't be interested in it. > > > Look. I am not a business man. This is truly an Android developer to > > Android developer talk. I won't expect any consumer/non-programmer get > > involved. You may have to buy your snake oil somewhere else. > > > On Feb 17, 10:02 am, "Michael Martin - MM Agency" <mi...@mm- > > agency.com> wrote: > > >> Hmm, not a very convincing argument...do you have any snake oil for sale? > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vincent Wu [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:00 AM > >> To: Android Discuss > >> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: ******New Model Android Phone for sale****** > > >> Of course I will have to show you the phone, have a few people test > >> it, and write at least one full sized review. The company will provide > >> english version of manual in a few days with other marketing materials > >> including full size images. I want to first see if there are other > >> programmers like me excited about a new Android device; if not I will > >> never want to spend time on it any more. > > >> On Feb 17, 9:52 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Maybe you could post a link to the manual, some pictures, etc., or are > >>> you expecting people to stump up cash without knowing what they're > >>> getting beyond it being an Android 'phone? > > >>> Al. > > >>> Vincent Wu wrote: > > >>>> Yes I know that one it is called OPhone from Lenovo; it has no > >>>> connection with the one I am referring to. > > >>>> Any phone order through me will have English manuals and the OS Image > >>>> will be English too. > > >>>> On Feb 17, 9:37 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> Does this mean a phone sold in china will not have a working Android > >>>>>> Market app when it is sent to US? If it is true my little operation > >>>>>> will fail for sure. > > >>>>>> What happens if you travel to the States? > > >>>>> China Mobile(carrier) will be selling the handsets & I assume with > > >> Android > > >>>>> Market since China Mobile is/will be their partner there. Maybe more > > >> carrier > > >>>>> partners in China, but none that I know. > >>>>> You travel to the USA with that phone & if your contract allows roaming > > >> and > > >>>>> Market allows you to access it whilst roaming, yes. > > >>>>> George > > >>>>>> On Feb 17, 6:46 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>> Guys, it won't be possible. Alternative device manufacturers that > > >> don't > > >>>>>> have > > >>>>>>> relationships with (Carrier+Google) won't be able to complete the > > >> Android > > >>>>>>> Market payment fulfillment. > >>>>>>> Android is open enough and open for alternative device manufacturers > > >> to > > >>>>>> use. > > >>>>>>> They will need an App Manager(some branded) for their devices and > > >> content > > >>>>>>> other than Android Market(since AM will not be accessible to these > >>>>>>> subscribers). Hence expect the growth pattern for alternative > > >>>>>> marketplaces > > >>>>>>> to surpass Android Market in global reach... till the day when > > >> Google > > >>>>>>> Checkout is available globally and have convinced every person in the > > >>>>>> world > > >>>>>>> to submit their personal details (who I am, how I pay, my habits, > > >> etc) to > > >>>>>>> Google. > > >>>>>>> For global reach you need local payment options and these are called > >>>>>>> alternative payments as each user is accustomed to in their local > > >> town or > > >>>>>>> country. > > >>>>>>> Combination of Google Checkout and carrier billing will work, but > > >> still > > >>>>>>> handicaped. Not to mention that its a lot more difficult for a giant > > >> to > > >>>>>>> enter local countries and offer payment services without a battle > > >> with > > >>>>>> local > > >>>>>>> authorities and companies... Though this is another > > >> corporate/politics > > >>>>>>> issue. > > >>>>>>> George > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> George, > > >>>>>>>> Going forward I can see Google only allowing Market on 'phones in > >>>>>>>> regions where they have sorted out the payment method because I > > >> can't > > >>>>>>>> see them offering and maintaining two version of Market (one > > >> allowing > > >>>>>>>> pay-for apps and another not). > > >>>>>>>> As for how many territories they offer payment in, well, who knows. > > >>>>>>>> Al. > > >>>>>>>> george_c wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> A question to all developers: > > >>>>>>>>> Do you think such devices that will start appearing more and more > >>>>>>>>> across the globe will have the Android Market client app and will > >>>>>>>>> allow its users to have access to the Android Market? > > >>>>>>>>> George > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Muthu Ramadoss > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Oh, right. The shipping and customs will probably cost more > > >> than > > >>>>>>>>> the phone for India! > > >>>>>>>>> take care, > >>>>>>>>> Muthu Ramadoss. > > >>>>>>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 > >>>>>>>>> http://androidrocks.in-AndroidConsulting. > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Cassius < > > >>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Remember shipping and customs when you buy from China. > >>>>>>>>> For example shipping and customs to ship an ADP1 from USA > > >> to > > >>>>>>>>> Italy is over 90$! > > >>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2009 9:54 AM, "Muthu Ramadoss" > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> If you can post the pictures, then probably people > > >> might > > >>>>>>>>> be interested in them. The more details, the better. > > >>>>>>>>> take care, Muthu Ramadoss. > >>>>>>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 > >>>>>>>>> http://androidrocks.in... > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Vincent Wu > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Well > >>>>>>>>> this is a... > > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> ====== > >>>>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >>>>>>>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >>>>>>>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > >>>>>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >>>>>>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >>>>>>>> subsidiaries. > > >>> -- > >>> ====== > >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >>> company number 6741909. 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